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To: jbe who wrote (41091)	6/20/1999 10:10:00 AM
From: PROLIFE	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 108807

jbe, There is no way I can keep up with everyone! So I will answer your post.It looks as if I am just as convinced one way as you and the rest are the other. I thought I had given the source for their quotes, but will now. James Madison's quote was from his "Religious Freedom, A Memorial and Remonstrance" in the 1785 session of the General Assembly of the state of Virginia. My source is America's God and Country by William Federer. Remember that Madison was arguing AGAINST the establishment of religion by law, as MANY Christians did, and as I would also. Just using quotes against that policy in no way makes them non Christian. If you were not jesting, let me point out that "light" is a central symbol & metaphor in all major religions, and that every religion claims to have possession of the "truth." I was not jesting, and although you are right in the sense of what everyone calls "light" and "truth", Madison clarified his in the quote I used by saying " the light of Christianity." then calling others "false religion" . Lastly on Madison, there are many recorded notes in his personal Bible....I can't type them all here, suggest you read them in Biography of James Madison by William C. Rives or A Cloud of Witnesses by Stephen Abbott Northrop. These books are referenced by and the quotes are recorded in America's God and Country. WHy would anyone bent on not being a CHristian make and keep good notes in a Bible? 2. John Adams quote can be found here in the Library of Congress records: lcweb.loc.gov 3.George Washington The info I posted on Washington, also came from the LoC site. lcweb.loc.gov I do agree with you that some of the founding fathers were deists. I do not agree that the majority were. BUT.....beyond all that, if many were Christian as I believe, why does that pain so many. IMO, the very fact that many Christians did not want a national "religion" was clear and as Patrick Henry said: "It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason people of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here." dan