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To: engineer who wrote (32753)	6/20/1999 11:25:00 AM
From: Valueman	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 152472

Engineer: Here's the chatter from the Sprint PCS newsgroup on this issue. The response below is from a guy who works at Qualcomm in the handset division on the ThinPhone. I can't vouch for any of it. >Craig, the Thinphone comes in two versions, the QCP-860 and the QCP-1960. >Both weigh a measly 4.2 ounces (or 120 grams). The thinphone is reportedly >very durable and resistant to shock from being dropped accidentally. I >doubt the diminutive Japanese phones can say the same. > >Additionally the QCP-860 is an analog and digital phone in one. That's a >remarkable achievement for a phone that is so small and durable. > >Although I don't have a QCP-860 Thinphone (yet) I have heard that the sound >quality is unsurpassed and that you can charge the internal battery very >rapidly by attaching on of the optional extended batteries to the back of >the phone. This is a great feature because it allows you to carry a >relatively small phone with a 3-4 day standby time and 2.5 hours of talk >time and if you are travelling and don't want to bring a bulky charger along >or have no power source handy, you can charge the phone back up with the >spare battery, then remove it and be on your way again. I know of no other >phone that allows this. Sorry, you cannot charge the internal battery from an external battery. But you can hotplug external batteries. -------- Many of the ThinPhone reviews have been excellent, with sound quality and signal stability getting an A+. On the other hand, there are always those who disagree: "I got the Qualcomm 860 for Airtouch CDMA 800 Digital network. The 860 only has about 48 hours standby. The only other phone let you do hot swap is the Motorola StarTac 7762/7760 for CDMA. Oh man, I hate my Qualcomm860, the sound quality was only so so, and phone is king of big. The phone is rather thin, but it has big surface area, and the phone has no vibration options." Now, the Nokia 6185 reviews are a mish mash of good and bad. It is larger than buyers expected, since it comes with a massive 1500 mAH battery. I think the ThinPhone's internal battery is on the order of 300-400 mAH. So don't let those claims of extended talk/standby impress you. A ThinPhone with the slim extended battery will blow away a Nokia 6185 in all parameters. Weight too would be comparable. Here is the unhappy 6185 owner review: "I returned my 6185 to the store and reactivated my StarTac... Two days was enough for me... funny - while I was there the salesman said several other people had returned their phones because of spontaneous reboots, dropped calls, etc.. My opinion: wait a few months (weeks) for the bugs to be worked out if you MUST have the Nokia. It's just not ready for primtime on SPCS - especially after using the flawless TouchPoint and the StarTac.. Just my 2c" So, perhaps there are a few bugs to be worked out still for that Nokia. PrimeCo is offering the QCP-1920 with an extra battery for $69 "While supplies last." I hope this is suggesting a change to the ThinPhone is just around the corner.

To: engineer who wrote (32753)	6/20/1999 1:44:00 PM
From: Bux	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 152472

Engineer, sorry for doubting you but I was simply asking for confirmation from you since there are conflicting stories from credible sources (yourself included) floating around. Your response that perhaps you would "humour me" struck me as defensive. Fact is, I still don't know the answer but I hold your opinion in high regard and your recent confirmation that you know for a fact that the production Thinphone does work this way has, again, changed the preponderance of the evidence. Help, I think I'm getting dizzy! Bux

To: engineer who wrote (32753)	6/21/1999 5:47:00 PM
From: JMD	Respond to of 152472

sorry engineer, keeping your posts to yourself is NOT an option. Where the hell would that leave Surfer Mike? Wandering in the Gobi Desert of Techno-Illiteracy which is clearly not tenable. I've got a ton of people that I've snowed at cocktail parties into thinking I actually know my ass from my ASIC and if you go dry on me the fraud will be exposed. Keep 'em coming [and that's an order from the Grand Poobah] :-) SM

To: engineer who wrote (32753)	7/7/1999 11:16:00 AM
From: Bux	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 152472

If you don't have one, then how can you make such statemnts? I had one for 6 months before, and I just got my own one this last week for my personal use. If the external battery doesn't do it, then return it, because it is designed that way. O.K. I've had my 860 for a couple of weeks now(new from Airtouch) and the internal battery will not charge from the external battery. But other than that it is a really sweet phone. Engineer, what's your take on this? Should I return it to Airtouch or should I humor you? Bux