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To: Mr. Pink who wrote (9637)6/21/1999 8:55:00 AM
From: Hawaii60  Respond to of 18998
 
Mr. Pink, You are kidding with the following report, right? I mean, I KNOW you can do better than that. So, I guess you are kidding. I will prepare a response but it won't be much better than your effort. Good enough though.

BTW, you sure don't understand VOIP or how telephony calls are routed. Further the commision ruled firmly in our favor on this issue a long time ago. Even had they charged though. It is IDT's favorable termination agreements that make the money. These are agreements that no one. Not even AT&T can compete with. Unless they want to lower their own termination charges to foreign monopolies.

I"LL BE BACK

<Why won't Net2Phone work? The only reason to use internet telephony is
because it's cheaper (quality is much worse). The only reason it's cheaper
is because internet telephony traffic dodges RBOC access charges. We
believe that this "arbitrage" is going to be shut down: the Net2Phone
prospectus itself discloses that several RBOCs have initiated lawsuits
against internet telephony carriers for access charges, and FCC
commissioners have publicly stated that the current situation must be
changed. In fact, two major sellside firms (Jefferies and First Boston)
have actually published negative views of the prospects for internet
telephony in general and Net2Phone in particular. In sum, IDTC has been a
series of short-lived long distance arbitrage opportunities; its current
businesses are in decline, and its growth engine (internet telephony) is
unlikely to get off the ground. >



To: Mr. Pink who wrote (9637)6/21/1999 9:05:00 AM
From: Hawaii60  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 18998
 
Also, although I will be responding in detail later this afternoon. I do want to say right now that margins are expanding, not contracting. Growth rate has been over 100% per year for 5 years. ebita is in double digits and if you think this IPO will be weak with the largets internet incubater (Softbank), the largest ISP (AOL) and the largest corporation in the World (GE) as partners. You are sadly mistaken.

Lets not forget that IDT also owns the 7th largest ISP and by virtue of the fact that they just introduced pre paid internet cards which are currently on sale in over 100,000 locations. I believe it is safe to assume that we will soon be getting a company announcement to the effect that ISP subscribers have no less than tripled in the last month. What do you think THAT will do to the valuation model. Shoot, then the ISP by itself, without the core business or net2phone ccould be easily valued at the current market cap.

Get stroong and go longggggggggggggggggg.

Yesterday you picked on the prepaid business. Now, that you were shown in advance how wrong that arguement is. You are trying to pick on the wholesale side. and telephony. A valianyt but weak effort so far.

I wish you all luck though and hope you can cover today without too much difficuaty.



To: Mr. Pink who wrote (9637)6/21/1999 10:27:00 AM
From: Sir Auric Goldfinger  Respond to of 18998
 
The Pink Sheets: Where the bad boys go after PINKY gets done with them: "New Rules May Mean Trouble For OTC Bulletin Board Firms

By JASON ANDERS
THE WALL STREET JOURNAL INTERACTIVE EDITION

A move to clean up the OTC Bulletin Board by requiring the small
companies quoted there to disclose basic financial information has left the
companies scrambling to comply, and investors in a bind.

The first phase of the plan, which is being
implemented by the National Association of
Securities Dealers over the next year, begins
July 1. Companies that fail to comply will be
dropped from the OTC Bulletin Board, and the NASD says that so far,
two-thirds of the 94 companies facing the first deadline don't meet the
eligibility requirements. By the time the plan is fully implemented, half the
6,700 OTC Bulletin Board companies could be booted. (The NASD also
operates the Nasdaq Stock Market.)

A place on the OTC Bulletin Board is important because the service --
along with its updated stock quotes readily available on the Internet -- has
helped many otherwise unknown companies attract legions of shareholders
and achieve heavy trading volume. Without the OTC Bulletin Board, price
quotes would be harder to find, and volume -- and potentially stock prices
-- could drop dramatically.

Many OTC Bulletin Board companies find themselves in a difficult
position: trying to calm investors worried over the new eligibility rules,
while at the same time facing what regulators say is an insurmountable
challenge to file the paperwork and win approval before July 1.

Many investors didn't know American
Benefits Group was facing eligibility trouble
until some postings on an Internet message
board noted that an "E" had been appended
to the company's stock symbol -- a
designation used by the NASD to identify companies that are within 30
days of being dropped.

The company, which was once involved in viatical settlements but now
says it operates an Internet shopping mall and several mining operations in
Madagascar, issued a press release June 4 assuring investors that it was
"committed to file the documents on June 11" and maintain its place on the
OTC Bulletin Board. (Viatical settlements let terminally ill individuals
collect a portion of their life-insurance benefits before they die.)

But as of Friday, the Deerfield Beach, Fla., company still hadn't filed with
the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. "Actually, we said the
soonest we could do it was June 11," Jerry G. Mikolajczyk, American's
chief executive, said in an interview. "At this time we won't be able to
comment on the exact date. Our official stance is no comment on
everything."

But even if American Benefits Group had mailed the filings when promised,
it still would have been dropped from the OTC Bulletin Board. That's
because the SEC gets a 60-day comment period before the filings go into
effect, and a company's eligibility could be delayed significantly if the SEC
has questions about the filing -- facts that some OTC companies failed to
mention when they assured investors they would meet the deadlines.

"It's not realistic to think that in 30 days or even 60 days these companies
could get the necessary filings together," says Adena Friedman, director of
trading and market services for Nasdaq. "If these companies didn't start
working on this several months ago, there's no way they're going to make
it."

Ms. Friedman admits that investors could have difficulty unloading stock in
companies that are dropped from the OTC Bulletin Board. "We've been
telling people this was happening since January, and I think the companies
bear the responsibility here for what happens in the trading of their stock,"
she says.

Many of the companies that become ineligible will likely move to the Pink
Sheets, a daily publication of quotations distributed by National Quotation
Bureau Inc., New York. NQB plans to launch an online, real-time version
of the Pink Sheets in mid-July, but those quotes will be accessible only on
a subscription basis to brokers and market makers, and won't be directly
available to investors.

Companies are being phased into the new rules alphabetically by ticker
symbol. Only 94 securities are up for review for July 1 (65 of those are
currently scheduled to drop off), but in later months as many as 700
securities will be reviewed at once. The new rules require companies to file
a Form 10 with the SEC that contains audited financial information, and to
file quarterly financial statements.

The Internet has helped turn the OTC Bulletin Board into a popular
playground for investors looking for big returns. Lured by cheap prices --
many shares trade for less than $1 -- and volatility that can send a
company soaring 500% in a single day, investors have flocked to the
service, where average daily volume has tripled since 1995 (volume on the
larger Nasdaq doubled over the same period).

But because many of the most popular OTC Bulletin Board stocks don't
report to the SEC, investors have been left to get information on such
securities from often dubious sources, including paid stock promoters.

And the OTC Bulletin Board has also proved to be fertile ground for
investment scams -- almost all of the Internet stock-fraud cases brought by
the SEC have involved companies quoted on the OTC Bulletin Board.

"These are companies you never would have heard of before the Internet,
and in many cases that would have been a good thing," says William
McDonald, director of enforcement the California Department of
Corporations, the state securities regulator. "I hope the public understands
that these delisted securities create a road map that we're going to use to
find fraudulent companies."

To be sure, SEC filings can be burdensome for small companies. Access
Power, a Jacksonville, Fla., provider of telephone service over the
Internet, is among the companies that were certified "eligible" in this first
round.

The company began filing with the SEC before the new rule went into
effect and estimates it spent about $20,000 to complete its filings -- and
that was with minimal use of outside accountants and lawyers. "It probably
took us four or five months to get things together at first, including about
four weeks just to get the financials audited," says Glenn Smith, Access
Power's chief executive.

The company now has one full-time employee -- out of its staff of 10 --
who does nothing but deal with SEC filings. "It's a strain, yes," says Mr.
Smith. "But if you're a public company, you owe this to your investors,
period."




To: Mr. Pink who wrote (9637)6/21/1999 10:48:00 AM
From: Hawaii60  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 18998
 
Mr. Pink. I have to go out for a while and want to shortcut this thing. So, thought you might enjoy a couple of excerpts form the latest Morgan Stanley report on IDT dated June 16, 1999

Morgan Stanley certainly doesn't agree with your thinking at all

4 MORGAN STANLEY DEAN WITTER
Current Market Cap $663,098 Core business multiples Impl ied Valuation of Core Business Current Implied Multiple of Net2Phone revenues Implied Valuation of IDT Share of Net2Phone
Calendar 1999E core revenues $772,157 0.9X $694,941 (0.7X) ($31,843)
Calendar 2000E core revenues $877,354 0.7X $579,054 1.3X $84,044
There is concern among investors that Internet telephony will face difficulty as a stand-alone, sustainable business model. We note, however, that IDT has taken its model of Internet telephony further than most of its competitors, working with portals and software suppliers to make its applications as ubiquitous as possible. We would suggest, then, that viewing Net2Phone as a liability – as this valuation clearly does – takes even the most bearish outlook on Internet telephony too far. We also believe that the high end of the implied valuation range falls short of recognizing Net2Phone's leading position in the Internet telephony market. We note that Destia (Strong Buy, $11.88), the competitive international carrier with the highest retail exposure in the group, is trading at just under 2.0X calendar 1999E revenues and that it is just beginning to exploit the potential of its e-commerce business. We thus believe that a range of 5.0X to 10.0X forward revenues is a reasonable approximation of what the Net2Phone offering will bring, reflecting the high growth rates associated with the Internet, but still well below what the higher-valued pure-play Internet providers are trading at. The bottom line we draw from this approach is that the market is currently undervaluing the upside potential to be realized from the Net2Phone offering.
Raising Target Price
How great is the upside potential? Using the valuation framework outlined above, we arrive at a valuation range of $922 million to $1.2 billion for IDT after the Net2Phone offering, taking into account the reduction in IDT's ownership. This translates into a per-share value range of $25.20 to $32.00, representing upside of 49% to 87% in IDT stock.
Current Share Price IDT Valuation Using Offering Multiple Per Share Upside Offering Multiple of Calendar Year Revenues Value of IDT Share of NTOP at Multiple
$18.13 $988,387 $27.02 49.1% 5.0X $107,171
$18.13 $1,021,186 $27.91 54.0% 5.0X $166,461
$18.13 $1,145,558 $31.31 72.8% 10.0X $264,342
$18.13 $1,237,647 $33.83 86.6% 10.0X $382,922
As always, we look to our conservative discounted cash flow analysis to provide a check on multiples valuation. Our DCF in this instance confirms what the comps tell us, in this case pointing to a midpoint value of about $29 per share. We note that the DCF uses a cost of equity of 17%, very high for an EPS-positive firm such as IDT, and a below-market P/E midpoint of 22X. We believe, though, that these parameters serve to capture some of the fundamental concerns investors have about the sector.
In summary, we believe that our analysis points toward a real undervaluation of IDT stock. Despite the degree of uncertainty surrounding the pricing of the Net2Phone offering, we believe that the conservative approach we have taken highlights upside in IDT's stock given what are, in our view, reasonable assumptions derived from market valuations of other Internet-oriented offerings.

Here's more"

The company attributed the majority of the revenue surprise to opportunities it exploited in its wholesale business. While we regard positively IDT's ability to move quickly in this area, these results reverse the trend toward decreasing wholesale revenues as a percentage of IDT's overall business mix. We believe that the results also raise the question of whether they raise too high a bar for revenue growth going forward. We do note, however, that our estimates called for very slow growth in the quarter – just over 3% on a sequential quarter over quarter basis – and that the 19.3% rate IDT turned in for fiscal 3Q1999 was actually slightly lower than the 20.6% pace the company set in fiscal 2Q1999.
Adjusting Estimates
Accordingly, we have adjusted our fiscal 4Q1999E revenue estimates to reflect an 8.2% sequential quarter over quarter growth rate off of the strong performance for fiscal 3Q1999. Given the fluid nature of the wholesale business, we will work closely with IDT management as fiscal 4Q1999 progresses to gain better visibility on the state of this side of the company's operations.
Net2Phone Valuation Implications
Since the announcement of the proposed spin-off of Net2Phone, its Internet telephony subsidiary, IDT's stock price has fallen off as much as 43% from its highs in April. Given that much of the price rise could be attributed to enthusiasm surrounding the spin-off, the scenario is confusing. In an effort to gain some clarity into the stock's valuation, we have taken a rough cut at valuation of IDT as a whole, using some general indications of the size of the impending offering from company management.
We approached the question from two perspectives. First, we used a range of revenue multiples relative to our forecast of Net2Phone's calendar 1999E and 2000E sales ($47.6 million and $65.6 million, respectively, in our model) and then looked at the valuation implied for IDT's core operations. Second, we applied current trading multiples to IDT's core business and checked the implied valuation of Net2Phone. We factored in IDT's current 66.6% ownership of Net2Phone following the equity investments by SoftBank, AOL, GE Capital and others. We also assumed an offering size of $50 million, with our range of valuations implying greater or lesser IDT post-offering stakes in Net2Phone. In all of our calculations, we used market capitalization for the numerator in our multiples, given IDT's and Net2Phone's negligible net debt status.
Given the first-to-market nature of the Net2Phone spin-off – there are currently no pure-play Internet telephony service companies – we, along with the rest of the market, are waiting with interest to see the eventual pricing of the Net2Phone offering. We believe the range is bounded at the low end by an ILD retail revenue, and at the top by the valuations of “dot com” Internet companies. This valuation ceiling in itself implies a wide range, however, and this uncertainty is exacerbated by the lack of clear-cut comps within this group for Net2Phone. It would seem reasonable, though, given Net2Phone's market position as a leading “click to talk” provider with a presence on a number of portals, and significant strategic and financial backers such as SoftBank and GE Capital, that the current implied multiples will prove to be below the eventual pricing of the offering, as we will illustrate.
We used a range of 2X to 10X calendar 1999E and 2000E revenues to estimate a value for Net2Phone. While this range is wide, we believe it reflects a conservative take on valuations for Internet-associated offerings, and reflects the uncertainty around the Internet telephony space in general, as we discuss further below.
Given this range, we arrive at a valuation for Net2Phone of from just under $100 million at 2X calendar 1999E revenues to about $650 million at 10X 2000E revenues.
Net2Phone Valuation Matrix
Multiple 2X 5X 10X
Calendar 1999E Net2Phone revenues $47,628 $95,255 $238,138 $476,276
Calendar 2000E Net2Phone revenues $65,594 $131,189 $327,971 $655,943



To: Mr. Pink who wrote (9637)6/21/1999 10:49:00 AM
From: Craig Richards  Respond to of 18998
 
the prepaid and wholesale businesses are worth ... $8 to $14 per share...if one values Net2Phone at 15x estimated leading revenue, Net2Phone is worth only $17/IDTC share.

Mr. Pink,
Your IDTC report places a value of $25 - $31 per share on IDTC and it is trading in the low 20's, yet you think it's a short? What am I missing?

Regards,
Craig



To: Mr. Pink who wrote (9637)6/21/1999 11:12:00 AM
From: vinh pham  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 18998
 
Mr. Pink, I summed up the price target for IDTC as you quoted from an analyst (with no reference to his name or firm) to arrive at $19-$25 a share. IDTC is currently trading in the low $20 which is soundly within the quoted range.

I have run through the financial numbers of the twelve trailing months as ended on April 30, 1999 and agree with "your referenced analyst" that the price as of today for IDT's core telecom business (without NTOP) is $8 to $14 a share using his assumption that the valuation is "probably" closer to .5x to .75x revenues. I don't know how to confirm his estimate for NTOP value, but it looks reasonable so I will take his word for it. However, analysts look forward and make price targets for the next 3 to 12 months, don't they? For instances, (1). FBR estimates IDTC at $22 and NTOP (N2P) at $16, making IDTC worth $38 a share; (2). CIBC estimates IDT at $16 and NTOP at $20, giving IDTC a total of $36 a share; (3). BT Alex Brown estimates IDTC as a whole to be at $42 a share by 4Q 2000.

IDTC is clearly not overvalued at all just by looking at its own fundamentals and estimates for NTOP's impact.



To: Mr. Pink who wrote (9637)6/21/1999 11:35:00 AM
From: vinh pham  Respond to of 18998
 
Mr. Pink, you quoted CSFB as "actually published negative views of the prospects for internet telephony in general and Net2Phone in particular.", but you forgot to mention that they also published the positive views paraphased as follows: (1). Telecom is a huge market. Billions in revenue can be obtained if a niche is carved. Did you read my post earlier to you where I quoted iLocus has clearly stated that N2P is the global leader in this niche and this niche is estimated by IDC to grow to $23.4 billion dollars in year 2003? (2). The strategic corporate investors such as Softbank and AOL are significant attributes to the busniness growth of N2P.