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To: The Philosopher who wrote (41347)	6/21/1999 3:32:00 PM
From: Sam Ferguson	Respond to of 108807

"And if I can say so without riling up recent wounds here, IMO the existence and nature of religious teaching and belief can be an important factor in whether a society is civilized. Of course, we also have to start defining what "civilized" means. That's certainly good for a few hundred posts!" Of course you can say so. It hardly makes it true and you haven't defined religion. I for one would not object to bible teaching as long as mysticism, Taoism, Wiccan and others were taught equally. Civilization hardly depends on religion as you define to improve the arts and sciences. In fact there has been warfare between Christianity and science since the beginning. Government and religion are for control of people. America saw what Constantine did to combine them both for utter control and to wipe out true Pauline doctrine for Arian religion and let the bishops control equally with government. They called the next 1,000 years the "Dark Ages" for a purpose. We sure have no need to stir that shit up anymore. Constantine would follow any God that would allow him to slay his enemies. Try reading up on how he was converted. Religion is a type of philosophy. Moral philosophy may be taught without it being religious.