Silicon Investor (SI) -- The First Internet Community

STOCKTALK

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor. We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community. If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.

Technology Stocks : Intel Corporation (INTC) -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (84507)	6/25/1999 1:31:00 PM
From: Rob Young	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

<Remember that the Alpha 21264 was a year late. Not only that, but it performed about 33% lower than previous expectations of 40 SpecInt and 60 SpecFP. (Initial parts scored 24 and 40, respectively. They can only go up from there, but it will be a while before the original targets will have been met.)> You got the late part correct... the rest of it isn't correct. The 21264 shipped at 30 SpecInt95 just what Jim Keller described were the initial target Specs from his Oct. 1996 MicroProcessor Forum presentation. You can root around mdronline.com and find it. You can also find 30 SpecInt95 numbers for the 8400 at specbench.org site... 47 SpecFp95 if I recall correctly which is VERY close to the 1996 estimate of 50. The 667 MHz parts will exceed the original targets, shipping now from Samsung in the UP2000 MB. The 750 MHz parts are due to ship in August, the 800 MHz EV67 and 833 MHz EV68 shipping in November. 933 MHz EV68 in February copper and aluminum parts at that time. 1 GHz end of Q2 2000, 1.2 GHz end of 2000 and finally Samsung talks of getting to 1.5 GHz in .18 SOI... Frankly, I believe 1.2 GHz.. and earlier targets... 1.5 GHz may be posturing on their part (we'll see). Note this good TechWeb article talks of low-cost Alpha.. i.e. EV68 shrink: techweb.com "The company will also tip word of a low-cost version of the Alpha 21264 processor it plans to produce early next year, and it will demo a 1-GHz version of the chip that is expected to ship in next year's second quarter." Probably a $400 part in that box. That in combination with UP1000 (based on Irongate chipset) will allow for "loaded" boxes to get in the engineering desktop sweet spot of $2500-$3500.. today Samsung talks of 750 MHz EV67 and UP1000 hitting $3500 in August timeframe. Want to guess SpecInts and Fps? Better or worse than Merced? (Hint: EV67 parts at 700 MHz reportedly do 42 SpecInt95) By the way, what do you consider "will be a while?" Does today count as "a while?" How's that low-cost IA64? Rob