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To: George Papadopoulos who wrote (12972)6/26/1999 10:10:00 PM
From: goldsnow  Respond to of 17770
 
How Tito's training destroyed Nato
hopes of a clean war
By John Simpson





SOMEHOW it was no great surprise to read in last week's newspapers that
after 11 weeks of bombing, 40,000 or so sorties and untold thousands of tons
of bombs, Nato had managed to hit only 13 Serb tanks in Kosovo. It has
claimed, of course, to have knocked out up to 40 per cent of the 280 or so
tanks the Serbs were believed to have deployed in Kosovo, plus almost 60
per cent of their artillery and mortars.

What Nato really hit were canvas and wood replicas. Colleagues of mine saw
some of these in Kosovo, together with old armoured personnel carriers,
broken-axled and rusting, which the Serbs had carefully left out for Nato's
pilots to see. From the height they were flying it must have looked exactly like
the real thing.

This was precisely the kind of war the Yugoslav Army had been trained to
fight; not the dirty wars of massacre and torture which Serb soldiers ended up
fighting in Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo. For more than 30 years Marshal Tito
taught his people that the real danger would be an all-out attack from the
Soviet Union, and they trained themselves in the unglamorous business of
hiding and dispersing their forces, so the enemy would expend effort
pointlessly. That is exactly what happened; only the enemy turned out to be
us.

Time and again when I was in Belgrade my colleagues back in London used
to ask me about signs of casualties. The military death toll must be pretty high
by now, they would say; what about the funerals, the death notices, the
anecdotal evidence that lives were being lost?

I always answered, quite truthfully, that the only casualties I heard anything
about were civilians. Not surprisingly, as it turned out. Something like 400
soldiers seem to have been killed, as compared with about 1,700 civilians.
Night after night Nato would hit army barracks and government ministries, as
though the Yugoslav army were obliging enough to hang around there. So we
have the melancholy result that four times as many of the people Nato did not
mean to hit were killed, compared with the ones it was trying to target. More
schools and hospitals and old people's homes were hit than Serb tanks.

Depressingly, this little war, genuinely fought for the best of motives, is a
throwback to most of the other wars we have seen in this calamitous century.
Victorian wars were mostly fought between armies; the Boer war ushered in
an era of total warfare, where the unarmed, the innocent, the non-combatants
were regarded as being just as useful a target as the military.

In the Eighties and Nineties we have dared to believe that all this might
change. Scarcely a single civilian died in the Falklands War; it was like a
return to the neat, conclusive campaigns of the 19th century. In the Gulf war it
looked as though the precision of the new weaponry meant that Western
countries at least would be able, and obliged, to fight clean wars. Defence
installations in Baghdad disappeared in a cloud of brick dust, while purely
civilian installations were left alone. Even the terrible loss of life at the Al
Amariyah shelter, when 340 women and children were killed, was a mistake:
the structure was a military command centre of sorts.

The fact that Western journalists were able to report wars like this from the
enemy capital meant that civilian casualties would have to be kept down;
public opinion would not support great loss of life among the innocent. Or so
we thought. It did not turn out quite like that.

Week after week in Yugoslavia Nato hit the wrong targets; names such as
Aleksinac, Nis and Surdulica were thrown into public awareness by some
terrible tragedy, and then (after some initial hesitation) explained away. It was
enough for Nato to say it was sorry, that it had not meant to do it, for public
opinion in the West to forgive and forget.

Now we see the terrible evidence that made President Clinton and Tony Blair
determined to carry on in spite of everything; and the torture chambers and
mass graves of Kosovo will join the other dark horrors of the 20th century.
But good intentions are not quite enough. In 1943 Albert Einstein contrasted
the clarity of the Allies' ends with the confusion of their means in the war
against Hitler. This contrast remains unfortunately as stark as ever.

Maybe the evidence of Nato's failures in the face of a small and not
particularly well-armed enemy will make us a little less hubristic now. Maybe
we will try to get back to the way we made war against Saddam. Maybe
civilian casualties will worry us more in future. Maybe.

John Simpson is world affairs editor of the BBC.



telegraph.co.uk



To: George Papadopoulos who wrote (12972)6/26/1999 10:18:00 PM
From: goldsnow  Respond to of 17770
 
BIZZARE? HOW ABOUT THIS?

Croatian Soccer Scandal Under Probe

Saturday, 26 June 1999
Z A G R E B , C R O A T I A (AP)

POLICE SEARCHED the apartment Saturday of an editor who
published allegations that intelligence services had rigged soccer
matches in favor of the president's favorite team.

Ivo Pukanic, editor of the independent weekly Nacional, said a
judge ordered the search on suspicion that he is disclosing
national secrets, a crime punishable by up to 10 years in prison.

Police have already interrogated him and searched his office.

Earlier this month, Nacional cited documents from the Bureau of
National Security that reportedly indicated that referees were
bribed or blackmailed to make rulings in favor of the Croatia
Zagreb club, a favorite of politicians in the governing Croatian
Democratic Union of President Franjo Tudjman.

Croatia Zagreb won its fifth consecutive title this year, in a season
marked by dubious refereeing.

The Interior Ministry did not deny the authenticity of the
documents, but denied involvement in possible match rigging.

The former head of the intelligence service, Miroslav Separovic,
was arrested and his home ransacked, apparently because he
was suspected of leaking documents to Nacional. He was
released, but a criminal investigation against him is continuing.

The government has been cracking down on what it says is the
illegal leaking and publishing of state secrets. Opposition parties
and reporters counter that such documents reveal abuses and
should not be regarded as state secrets in the first place.

Tudjman's party has ordered a review of secret service operations,
but critics say they suspect the investigation is aimed only at
finding out who is leaking documents.



To: George Papadopoulos who wrote (12972)6/27/1999 1:27:00 AM
From: Neocon  Respond to of 17770
 
Bizarre,indeed...maybe they are trying to bribe the guy, by promising his organization a cut for providing "security"...



To: George Papadopoulos who wrote (12972)6/27/1999 9:22:00 AM
From: D. Long  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 17770
 
George, we will miss you. My respects to the family <sniffles>

Greek Dictator George Papadopoulos dead at 80

cnn.com

Derek <bg>