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To: Charles R who wrote (84566)	6/27/1999 7:58:00 PM
From: Jean M. Gauthier	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

Hiya ! Well I am Senior Systems Architect (consultant) , with 16 years IT experience, and have built a bunch of Web Farms, and other database systems on SMP servers. I give a damn what chip is inside, as I don't want a small flaw in the x86 compatibility core of the microchip to crash my client's website, database or client-server application. I would NEVER buy a NON-Intel chip.... Every time I burned that rule in the past , I regretted it... 1- Alpha systems..... compatibility problems, Binary incompatibilities 2- MIPS RISC systems... same compatibility problems, Binary incompatibilities as well. The ONLY systems I would recommend for HIGH-uptime are Sparc-based SUN's (the BEST Unix vendor out there...) So, I take exception to your rule..... You have to be dreaming in technicolor if you think a high-level IT manager will buy an "Althlon" system. if he does, he's an idiot, who will shortly be unemployed the 1st time he has a catastrophic crash and he has to explain (or his back-room techies will "spill the beans") to management that he saved $ 500-1000 (at best) on their 4-way SMP server, buy they just lost $ 50,000 or more in business. In Chips, compatibility/reliability is more important than saving a few measly bucks by buying a chip from a company that might not be in business very long.... SUN Rules in Unix Servers EMC in SAN's Dell, Compaq & IBM in SMP Intel servers.. CSCO in the network MSFT in desktop, low-mid databases & Applications Buy out of these companies at your own risk, usually high career-based risk if they happen to "blow-up", on your new K7-based SMP server for example <smile> That's all for today Back to regularly scheduled programming i.e. AMDroids hyping thir shitty, badly run company. Jean

To: Charles R who wrote (84566)	6/27/1999 8:42:00 PM
From: Paul Engel	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Chuckles - Re: ", I can tell you with a high amount of certainty that architects don't give a damn if the processor comes from Intel or AMD or MIPS or Mot or Sun or an inhouse fab..." You are smoKing ROPE ! How many THOUSANDS OF HOURS of non-STOP operation has ANYBODY verified on an ATHLATE SYSTEM with MULTIPLE ATHLATES running Linux, WIndows NT, or Solaris and the various hundreds of APPLICATION PROGRAMS running on top of these OS's? Answer - ZERO - there AIN'T NO MULTIPLE SMP ATHALTE SYSTEMS - except in "AMD's LABS". Only an IDIOT - are you an IDIOT ? - would expect any MIS department to buy a new AMD ANYTHING with the ATHLATEs to run their corporate business without EXTENSIVE DEVELOPMENT, TESTING, VERIFICATION, and RE-VERIFICATION of system-level RELIABILTY. And with AMD's track record - You can be 99.99% assured that it will be years before AMD has any system level reliability that will get them even CLOSE to Intel-based machines. Then you have another factor - what MIS people want to switch from Intel-based systems, backed by IBM, Dell, Compaq, SGI, Sequent, etc. AND INTEL - ALL MULTIPLE BILLION DOLLAR ENTERPRISES WITH EXTENSIVE HISTORIES OF PROFITABLITY, and LONG TERM SUPPORT - and play RUSSIAN ROULETTE with an AMD system, with AMD components, knowing that AMD may be declaring financial bankruptcy with every passing fiscal quarter? Would you take that chance with your BILLION DOLLAR ENTERPRISE? Well, would YOU ? By the way - which OEM's stood up last Wednesday to announce they were going to support AMD's athLATE CPU in home PC systems? This lack of OEM COMMITMENT at the LOW END will not help AMD in the SERVER business - unless AMD gets into the hamburger server business. Paul