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To: epicure who wrote (30412)	6/29/1999 1:11:00 PM
From: nihil	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71178

Yes. It was contemptible to see that great mind bowed down to pygmies and hypocrites. He was quite correct to live. I have always pitied him from childhood.

To: epicure who wrote (30412)	6/29/1999 3:23:00 PM
From: Gauguin	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 71178

That was one of the only not understandable things I've heard Freddie say. Oh; he says a lot that's incomprehensible, but.... I think that could be a capacity problem. Mine. But I couldn't understand: <<<Kepler, Copernicus, the Bacons, Newton, Maxwell, Heisenberg, all these backward dopes and many others failed to see Christianity as an impediment to their scientific work. It's a conceit that simply doesn't stand up to examination, either historical or epistemological. But I guess if repetition makes something true, then true it must be.>>> (What about Descartes, having to confuse and/or bluff The Buttheads into even letting people think?) Yah, repetition has made it true. I don't think there "has to be" a separation of Church and Science, and I thought that was Freddie's point. (Talking about people in the third person is really scary, especially Freddie, isn't it?) But then the rest of it doesn't fit. So I think his statement is incomplete, or he has completely lost his freaking mind. I have a second theory, and that is the cockatiel. Freddie and a guy from USC have been teaching him to peck. Or it could be those wearable computers he got for the tetras. The church survives in spite of itself. It's a mystery to me why. I separate it, myself, from Christianity. It has stood in the way of science and knowledge at every turn, without a doubt, under some assumption "God" would. Pope Urban the VIII wasn't very urban. Not very civilized to Galileo. Or was it Bruno. I forget. Doesn't matter. Literally. They were all princes. It was known in Europe before Galileo that the Earth was not the system center. Galileo just validated and published it; so it was the spreading of truth and visible proof thereof that was the real offense to the church. Freddie's statement sounded practically papal. Okay, Freddie, fire away. Just remember, I can dish it out, but I can't take it.