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To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (13170)6/30/1999 10:20:00 AM
From: goldsnow  Respond to of 17770
 
Kelly should take a rest in Israel or in Northern Ireland to see firsthand how hatred is preventing two different communities to mix with each other in the same neighborhoods --or perhaps he should travel across the U.S.A., in the segregationist South, back in the 1950s, that is!>>>>>

I guess you have not traveled to the South in 1990's? Where did you get this implication that neighborehoods are no longer segregated?
Have you heard about this new dilemma of Re-districting for the purpose of congressional elections?

As for your assertion that reconciliation process takes TIME, I am sure you would agree that 600 years is enough of the test....<gg>
The better question is when is the next battle?




To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (13170)6/30/1999 10:27:00 AM
From: goldsnow  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 17770
 
South African races unite in vigilante war
By Inigo Gilmore in Pretoria

WHITE South Africans are flocking to a black-run vigilante group whose
crime-fighting formula includes whipping suspects and dangling them before
crocodiles.

The leader of the organisation is Chief John Magolego, a black businessman
from Northern province. He has been hailed by some as a messiah for his
tough methods. But he now faces a murder trial after one punishment beating
ended in death.

Last week, Magolego travelled south to Pretoria to meet white members of
the newest branch of his organisation, which calls itself
Mapogo-a-Mathamaga, a name taken from a Sotho saying: "When a leopard
is confronted by a tiger, it becomes a tiger itself."

He strode briskly into a coffee shop in one of Pretoria's suburban malls,
wearing an immaculate suit and flanked by bodyguards. "We are unique in
South Africa because our organisation is run by black people - but whites
want to join up," he said. "The people have confidence in us. These criminals
know that if they cross us, we will work on their buttocks. They have come to
understand that we will inflict pain on their bodies if they do not use their ears.
If they tell terrible stories about Mapogo, I like it, because other criminals will
fear us. Some are even running to the police for cover."

Five Mapogo members, including one white man, are currently on trial in
Mpumalanga province in connection with the torture of two suspects. They
were dipped into a crocodile-infested river before being flogged and given
electric shocks to their genitals for five days. In a country where vigilante
groups are increasing in response to spiralling crime, such publicity has
enhanced the organisation's reputation among many people. Mapogo has fast
emerged as South Africa's largest vigilante group, growing from fewer than
100 members in 1996 to about 35,000 in 90 branches today.

In Pretoria, Magolego has found an unlikely partner in Gayle Derby-Lewis.
She is the wife of Clive Derby-Lewis, the former Right-wing MP who is
serving a life term for planning the 1993 assassination of the Communist Party
leader Chris Hani, whose death almost derailed talks to end apartheid. Three
months ago, she co-founded Mapogo's Pretoria branch. She says white
members are joining daily.

"John is the right man at the right time and his colour is irrelevant," Mrs
Derby-Lewis said. "Yes, this sort of vigilantism is unsavoury for European
people, but they are not living here. You cannot deal with these criminals by
taking statements."

Among her latest recruits is Johan van Deventer, the owner of a cafe in
Pretoria's upmarket Brooklyn district. Four weeks ago, he was held up at
gunpoint by one of his workers and an accomplice, who emptied the safe.
Since he erected a Mapogo sign in his cafe last week, Mr van Deventer says
his awestruck workers have assured him that the notice will serve as an
effective deterrent.

"I was brought up in a very conservative Afrikaner family and we believed
that only whites could run things efficiently," he said. "But these [Mapogo]
guys know what they're doing, and they're well-connected in the community
where the police's hands are tied. Crime is now so bad that white and black
must work together. After my recent experience of being held up at gunpoint,
my terror later turned to anger. For me, jungle justice is the only answer to
this problem - an eye for an eye. I don't mind what they do to them, although
I would stop short of murder."

Mapogo's appeal is a reflection of the growing anger and frustration felt by
many South Africans towards the failure of the authorities to tackle crime.
Members of Mapogo pay an annual fee of up to £17 and are given
emergency numbers of branch leaders whom they can call at any time. Taking
part in beatings is optional, but all members are expected to come to the aid
of others when called on. Once suspects are traced, they are usually beaten
and then handed over to police.

Next month, Magolego will go on trial with 12 others on murder and assault
charges in connection with the beating of two suspects in 1996, one of whom
later died. He said the two policemen who arrested him were later dismissed
in connection with corrupt practices which his organisation exposed. As a
result, some officers regarded Mapogo as a threat.

Magolego, who does not seem too concerned about his forthcoming trial,
said: "We had some criminals who died after being beaten, but we did not
intend this." He also admitted that his vigilantes sometimes beat up the wrong
people. But he added: "If white and black can join hands behind us, I think,
within five years, it will be very rare to find places in South Africa where
criminals are ruling."
telegraph.co.uk