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To: BillHoo who wrote (6881)	6/30/1999 9:21:00 PM
From: Leo Mitkievicz	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 9798

"think the problem is they are not generating enough NEW products." ummm.... hi Bill..... don't think that way! PLEEEEEEEEEASE don't think that way!!!! just study up for a while on the last 27 or so NEW products and the consequences. regards, Leo

To: BillHoo who wrote (6881)	7/1/1999 9:45:00 AM
From: James P Shaw	Respond to of 9798

Not really. Look at Philip Kahn at Borland (now Inprise) is basically another dead company. Novell was devastated by Ray Noorda (now running Caldera, which bought DR-Dos for some $40M US, and then immediately launched at $1.5B US lawsuit against MS. By the way both companies owned or sold a suite with WordPerfect. Lotus, now owned by IBM, is a shell of its former self. Netscape is another casualty. Larry Ellison hasn't really tried to dethrone Gates, he hates him, but he hasn't ventured head-to-head with Gates. Its Gates that is trying to compete against Oracle. Ciao! Jim Shaw