To: Tom Clarke who wrote (55004 ) 7/1/1999 12:03:00 AM From: Johannes Pilch Respond to of 67261
>Reading your post has made me want to check out Mahler. Beethoven built edifices, now you're telling me Mahler made mountains! What little of him I have caught in passing must not have registered.< Personally I find when I do not like something but want to find its redeeming quality (of course it must not offend my principles), I absorb myself in it. Try listening to Mahler's 1st, 5th and 9th symphonies a lot. Perhaps concentrate on the 9th. Make sure to have great recordings of them. Solti and Chicago is great. Read about Mahler and see if you sense his personality emanating from the music. I find so much pleasure when I have learned about a person and then am able to see that person flowing outward through some medium. >Your references to Yes and King Crimson gave me deja vu all over again. I'm OK, I'm coming out of the flashback now.< (grin) Yup. Fripp, Belew, Brian Eno all those fellas I found just weird enough to hang onto them. I just get too bored with the typical progressions one finds in rock. Crimson, old Yes, UK etc. they are fun. >I agree that jazz applies to too many different sounds. Lotta folks think Kenny G is jazz?!< Depressing ain't it? >For complexity and arrangements it doesn't get better than Ellington does it? He is to jazz what Shakespeare is to literature….< Eeeyup. Those sound textures are outta this world. >As far as books go, I'm afraid I'm not as well read as you are. Certain books may not be great writing but may have a lasting impact. (I'm thinking of Rand here.) She certainly had an impact on me.< She is very powerful. Very. >I like Steinbeck too. I spent a summer a few years ago reading nothing but Steinbeck. I had just discovered him and went on a tear devouring his novels. The characters he created in Cannery Row and Tortilla Flat always stay with you.< Ooh! I had forgotten these. You are so right, my friend. I am going to have to reread Steinbeck. Ages ago I too went through a Steinbeck period where I just ate and slept Steinbeck. >I must admit I wanted to cut my throat after reading To a God Unknown, though.< LOL. >Not too many people who are alive are writing great novels, are they? Cormac McCarthy has written some great stuff, I hope his best work isn't behind him. He threw everything he had in that recently completed trilogy.< So right. Great novels, I mean really great novels are hard to come by.