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To: Henry Volquardsen who wrote (1912)7/2/1999 7:29:00 AM
From: N  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 3536
 
There are lots of ex Fed types on the Street making their living analyzing what the Fed is up to. Sometimes their former associates will do them a solid and have a heart to heart about how they are 'feeling'. The ex Fed guy will then start calling clients and 'analyze' what he heard. Gradually the info spreads

Thanks for telling us even-less-than-mortals what you hear! My god...no not cynical. Gossip, oops 'sharing feelings', is a time honoured way of getting the word out.

Fwiw, here is the ft article that follows up on the fed's overhaul of its models:

Message 9945435

Nancy



To: Henry Volquardsen who wrote (1912)7/2/1999 11:26:00 AM
From: Daniel Chisholm  Respond to of 3536
 
Nancy says the Fed doesn't actually know.

Cynical Old Henry (TM) says they think they do, and they do their best to push and pull at the market (managing expectations).

Why can't we all just get along? I vote for Nancy and C.O.Henry(TM)!

- Daniel



To: Henry Volquardsen who wrote (1912)7/2/1999 11:26:00 AM
From: Daniel Chisholm  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 3536
 
Enough fluff from me. Here's a serious question for Henry, and whoever else feels like throwing in their two cents worth. Comments and criticisms will be gratefully received.

I find myself wondering about the on-the-run/off-the-run Treasury spreads - you know, that trade which helped out LTCM so wonderfully ;-) A couple of weeks ago I was going over bond prices, bid-ask spreads, yields and commissions with my broker, and was struck at how seemingly generous some of these spreads were. I confess to not writing it down, and to having a faulty memory, but I think I remember seeing 10-15 basis points of yield spread between the on-the-run and six months off-the-run 30 year US bond.

Here's what I found. The bid-ask spreads seemed to be 3/32, for both on-the-run and off-the-run bonds. This is quite a fat spread compared to the 1/32 spread typical (according to my broker) of bond futures. I was surprised though to see that the bid-ask spread for the off-the-run wasn't any worse than the on-the-run, since the explanation I've always heard for the on-the-run price premium (yield discount) is a liquidity preference argument. Perhaps if I was to ask for a quote on $10M or $100M I'd get a different picture?

This morning over coffee I constructed a scenario in which a retail investor might be able to make money on playing this spread. This seems ridiculous ;-), so I'm asking for comments on where I might have gone wrong.

Here's my scenario. Short $X worth of the on-the-run 30 year US bonds (yielding Y%), and buy $X worth of the off-the-run 29.5 year US bonds (yielding Y+0.1%). Hold the position for six months, at which time you'll be short $X worth of off-the-run 29.5 year bonds and be long $X worth of 29.0 year bonds. During this period you will have made one interest payment of Y% and received one interest payment of Y+0.1%, earning you the 0.1% spread. Also, at the end of this time the yield difference between the two will have (hopefully!) shrunk, to (say) 0.02%, yielding you a small capital gain as well.

Here are some numbers, based on an X=$100K chunk. Entering and then liquidating the position after six months will cost a 3/32 bid-ask spread on each leg (short and long). Add in a 1/32 commission for my broker, and this totals to a $250 cost.

Earning a (semi-annual) 0.1% interest differential will be $50 in my pocket.

The capital gain due to an 8 basis points (.08%) yield spread narrowing will be (assuming a bond duration of 12 years) 12*.08% = 0.96%. On a $100K face amount, this is a $960 profit.

This nets out to a $760 profit, over a six month period. Annualized, this is 1.52% of the $100K principal amount.

Now the question is, how much risk was incurred, and how much margin capital was tied up for this six months?

Since I am aiming to realize 8bps of profit, I have to be prepared to defend the position in case yield spreads widen in the meantime, and perhaps even exit (at a loss) if the pain becomes too great, in order to live to fight another day. Let's say I decide that if the yield spread grows from 10 bp to 40 bp, I'll stop out and take my loss -- i.e., I'll risk 30 bp for an 8 bp gain. Since 8 bp are worth $960, 30 bp are worth $3600 -- this is the amount (not including commissions and spreads) that I'll risk on the trade.

Is this a reasonable "really bad scenario", i.e., a 30bp widening? What happened during LTCM? Am I correct in saying that I ought to be able to limit my risk to $3600?

Now we come to margins. I don't know what sort of margins a brokerage will require of a (ha!) retail client for this sort of trade. I'd like to think something on the order of 5%, but I doubt it. If they want 30%, I'll have to set allocate $30K + my $3.6K stop-loss amount for each $100K. This allows 100/33.6 = 2.98X leverage, which boosts the annualized return to 4.52%

So if I put up $33.6K in T-bills, I'd earn about 4.25% on the T-bills and 4.52% on the yield spread trade - an 8.77% return, which involves a maximum risk of $3.6K, which is 10.7% of $33.6K

What if I were able to arrange better margins, or play games to achieve same (derivatives!), and leverage the trade 10X? This would involve putting up $6.4K of margin plus $3.6K of stop-loss, for a total of $10K (say, a T-bill). The T-bill would earn 4.25% interest, the leveraged annualized yield spread would return 15.2%, for a 19.45% return on $10K. Maximum risk would be $3.6K, or 36% of the $10K.

These numbers seem attractive to me. The three scenarios above (1X leverage, 3X leverage and 10X leverage) seem to be "dead-conservative", "conservative" and "enterprising-but-reasonable risk" scenarios, returning 1.52%, 4.52% and 15.2% above the risk-free rate (respectively), in return for taking on risk in the amount of 3.6%, 10.7% and 36%.

So my question is, why isn't everybody doing this? Or is the prospect of a 15% return on a 10X leveraged (bond) trade just too boring to contemplate?

- Daniel