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To: Lee Lichterman III who wrote (19442)	7/5/1999 9:31:00 PM
From: John Madarasz	Respond to of 99985

L3 OT Our energy needs to stay in the area of creating OPPORTUNITY not hand outs because it is politically correct. Well put...but... please don't make the mistake of comparing yourself to a homeless individual who may also be lacking the education you obviously have been fortunate enough to have been blessed with. Don't get me wrong, sir, as I agree with many of your points; but to think that so many homeless and unfortunate people choose to live that way is beyond insensitive. Ever think that maybe that guy hired you because you already had another job, references, a phone, a house, etc. etc. etc.? I'm ready to get back to work trying to figure out which way the market might turn so I can grow my finances, but that doesn't mean I won't offer some of my time again to pitch in on another Habitat For Humanity Project. Maybe some of the market savvy presented here will afford me the OPPORTUNITY to do so sooner than I planned. Very Best Wishes, John Madarasz

To: Lee Lichterman III who wrote (19442)	7/5/1999 10:02:00 PM
From: James F. Hopkins	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 99985

L3; <OT> I can go along with the parents may not need the sympathy, but many of them do need help and more than we like to admit many of them deserve help too. But beyond that the Kids had nothing to do with being brought into the world, and it's a crime to make them pay for it the way we do. In time it comes back on us too, we can't have a great society and at the same time neglect underprivileged children no matter how they got here. Many of them don't get to school or if they do they are ostracized and drop out. Do you ever wonder why we have more people per capita locked away in jails than any other Nation on earth ? Something is wrong with this system, we have or are becoming inhumane. Life is just a video game. ------------------- We spend a 1000 times more money on foreign aid than we do on any aid to the indigent people right here at home. The Federal Government doesn't think twice about bailing out the white collar fiascos , the S&Ls the LTCMs and even cooperate America gets subsidies and larger hand outs by by the bushel than any amount spent to reach out to the more indigent people that we sweep under the rug. -------------------- While we can not guarantee every one will have the same chance at life and perhaps we shouldn't try, on the other hand we should make no laws or enact any policies that prevent equal opportunity, and we do and because we do we have a responsibility to make up for it. The social engineers who invented and insist that the Government MUST have a National Debt are the ones who set this up. A National debt by it's very nature is immoral, and insures that indigent people born into it will have enough obstructions to over come that they will remain indigent. Meanwhile the upper crust makes money off the debt, while making sure the peons don't have a chance to change the status que. ----------------- Will Rogers said it Best. "The Rich get richer the poorer, and the poor in their ignorance help to arrange it" Jim

To: Lee Lichterman III who wrote (19442)	7/5/1999 11:09:00 PM
From: Berney	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 99985

Lee, OT I tend to agree with you. I remember running into a dude out west who simply enjoyed hunting and fishing. He was a professional collector of unemployment checks. His view of employment was to make sure he worked long enough to collect the unemployment so he could go hunt and fish. The "system" starts with the premise that everyone wants to work. Well, it just ain't so. I remember doing a tax return many years ago for a man from Ethiopia who had been a member of the middle class in his homeland. He was working as a janitor at the airport. He said to me there are 3 classes of people in the world: rich, middle class, and poor. He indicated that his country had none of our rich, our middle class were their rich, their middle class were our poor, and we had none of their poor. I noted that I was sure that it would be difficult for me if I went to his country. He responded: No, you have an education and a one-eyed man is a rich man in the land of the blind. I appreciated the education and did not charge him for the tax return. Berney