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To: jbe who wrote (44048)	7/5/1999 11:31:00 PM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

The best short definition of "sexism" that I have seen is "behavior, conditions, or attitudes that foster stereotypes of social roles based on sex." By that definition, I plead guilty. 1) I still believe that marriage is between one man and one woman. I don't believe in plural or same-sex marriages. So I have an attitude that fosters a stereotype of social roles based on sex. No apologies there. 2) I don't believe women should be in front line ground combat in the military forces. Clearly sexist by your definition. 3) I still open doors for women where I wouldn't under the same circumstances for a man. (When walking with a woman, where it is not completely awkward to do so I will consciously step forward to get to the door first to open it. When walking with a male friend I walk naturally and whoever gets there first opens it.) Certainly sexist by your definition. 4) This one is harder, but in representing families with infants where equal coparenting is not possible I still have a gut reaction that assuming both parents are good, quality parents, the infant is better off with the mother than the father. I try to fight this instinct, especially where I represent the male in the relationship, but I do retain that stereotype of societal roles based on sex. On the other hand, in ways that I believe matter, I am strongly in favor of equal rights. I detest the concept that because my daughters are female society decrees that they should earn less for the same work than my son. As I discussed in an earlier post I am appalled by domestic violence and the underlying past societal acceptance of a man's right to control his wife by force (or otherwise, but force is the present battlefield). My daughters will get every bit as much access to education as my son, and they will get every bit as much freedom as he has had. No sex roles there; I want them to grow up strong and independent, and that demands that I treat them as strong and independent people (which, I assure you, they are). I would vote for Elizabeth Dole over Al Gore in a heartbeat and have no concerns at all about the ability of a woman to be the military leader of the free world. As to you, are you really saying that there is not a single stereotypical social role based on sex that you, at this stage in your life, favor even by a minute amount? That your life is totally free of any stereotypical sex-based behaviors, that you have never used your charms as a woman to gain an advantage over a man in business or social circles, that you have never let a man buy you dinner when you would have split the check with a woman in the same circumstances, etc.???

To: jbe who wrote (44048)	7/6/1999 12:08:00 AM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Christopher, there really does not appear to be a synonym for "man-hater," at least not one derived from the Greek, on the order of "misogynist." Actually, the OED does give us "misandry, the hatred of males" under the miso- prefix, but calls it a nonce word and gives no examples of usage. But if the OED allows it, it's good enough for me. Do you think X and CobaltBlue are true misandrists? Or are they just being playful? Perhaps we have also need to coin androphobia, fear of males. There are certainly some of them around in this world.