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To: PROLIFE who wrote (26005)	7/6/1999 3:01:00 PM
From: gregor	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Hello Dan : I wonder if you could help me out a little. Or someone else. In Luke 10:18 Christ says that He saw satan fall from heaven as lightning. I feel this is the original account when satan rebelled. Then by Adam satan gained access as the accuser, to heaven as evidenced by the account of God and Job. My question is that by Christ, did or did not satan again lose his access; and what scripture is relevant... In Christ.gregor

To: PROLIFE who wrote (26005)	7/6/1999 8:48:00 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 39621

Actually, when I first began thinking about abortion when I was a young person, I was absolutely opposed to it. And I held that opinion for years. What changed my mind as to early term abortion being murder was discovering that while the Judeo-Christian (and I mean the whole tradition - Jewish, Catholic, Protestant) opposed abortion, the opposition was not because abortion was considered murder. Abortion is considered a sin but not the sin of murder. The Judeo-Christian tradition has always held that the soul enters with the first breath of life. I realize that is changing in a lot of people's minds due to opposition to abortion, but the new position (abortion = murder) isn't based on the traditional biblical interpretation of anybody. My Mom had a miscarriage when I was young. No funeral or ceremony. And we were very active in our church. You post articles about how one man can kill others cause of their skin, yet you sit back and nod your head in agreement when many are killed in the abortion slaughter houses, and then wonder how humans can still treat each other badly!!!my my. So you're saying - if I don't agree with you that (early term) abortion is murder, I don't have a right to oppose any murder at all? And the part about nodding my head in agreement - guess this means if I don't think it's murder I want abortions to occur, huh? BTW, I am ashamed that any man would kill another Me too, unless the killing is in self-defense. As to the press mentioning the race of the killer and the victims I don't see anything wrong with that, particularly in this case where the race was the motive. If an article didn't mention the motive it wouldn't be telling the whole story would it. Bruce