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To: C David White who wrote (17632)7/6/1999 1:48:00 PM
From: Stormweaver  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 64865
 
Let me inject some reality, Java is nice but let's remember the real slogan is "Write once and Debug everywhere". I do like Java but let's not kid ourselves since everytime you move your code to a new OS or new JVM you need to re-test it. The SUN JDK was/is no buggier than the MSFT JVM and until Symantec's recent JIT, MSFT JVM was the quickest on NT.

Regarding security, checkout the 1.2 security model. The sand box model was too restrictive to develop realword applications. As a result the new security model is not much more restrictive that downloading a running any other executable in a browser.



To: C David White who wrote (17632)7/6/1999 2:40:00 PM
From: Mephisto  Respond to of 64865
 
[Windows CE may be here today, but the Palm OS is outselling it massively. And a lot of developers are gettin' tired of MS "standard-setting" -- like a Java Virtual Machine that's buggy......... A lot of people are waking up and smelling the coffee.]

Your comment about the Palm Pilot reminded me of an article I read recently in an older edition of The Economist

Have you heard of PISON, a private French company? I believe it has a gadget similar to the architecture of The Palm Pilot.

Pison has fostered a company called Symbian. The company believes open standards are critical because it gives customers confidence. NOK, MOT, Ericsson & Matsushita (spell?) have put a stake in Symbian which has 300 employees.

I believe Symbian's product is called EPOC which was designed for mobile devices. The article pointed out that unlike MSFT CE, EPOC makes better use of limited battery and memory. Evidently, speech will drive the need for better batteries and memory.

The belief is that telephony and PC's will converge. Symbian's parents do not want to end up as distributors for intellectual property held by MSFT.

I do not have a copy of the article so I do not recall the publication date.

Regards,

Mephisto

PS: Sorry if I misspelled company names.