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Pastimes : Let's Talk About Our Feelings!!! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Ilaine who wrote (44186)	7/6/1999 3:24:00 PM
From: epicure	Respond to of 108807

Yeah- that was a good post. Ditto for me too- I could not have not said it better so I won't even try.

To: Ilaine who wrote (44186)	7/6/1999 3:28:00 PM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Do women beat men so savagely in your community that they are bruised, and have broken limbs? Yes. I have the police reports on former clients to prove it. You want broken limbs? Will two broken arms do it for you? In our community a wife who didn't want to wait to inherit her husband's money killed him, ground him up in a meat grinder, and mixed him in with concrete she was pouring for a new floor. Ruth Neslund. Tried and convicted right here in our little old county. Do women rape men at gunpoint, or knifepoint? That, not that I know of. More common is the Bobbit syndrome. Do women murder strangers? Do women rob banks, or convenience stores? Certainly. Maybe not as often as men, but they do. Don't need to go back to Bonnie and Clyde or Ma Barker, or Patty Hearst; we had a case right her of a woman robbing stores at gunpoint. Do women hide in alleys and mug passersby? I have no personal experience of that, only been mugged twice, both times by men. But I wouldn't be surprised if it happened. You know it's not true, but you must say it anyway, for reasons that escape me. On the contrary, I know it IS true. The reason I say it is to combat this delusion that only men are violent, and to try to infuse some truth into this issue. I have represented BOTH men AND women who have been victims of domestic violence. Domestic violence against men is in about the stage that domestic violence against women was maybe 20 years ago -- definitely there, but not publicly acknowledged, It is very hard to get a man to admit in court that his wife beat him up. Somehow, it is seen as a stigma on the victim, that somehow they must have deserved it. (I have heard more than one woman say that Bobbitt deserved to get his tool cut off. But if you even breathe a suggestion to them that some woman deserved to get her arm broken, they go ballistic. The double standard clearly prevails when it comes to domestic violence.) No question that more violence is perpetuated by women than by men. But also no question that there are women out there who are violent. The teen-girl-gang attack was horrible, but not unique.