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To: 45bday who wrote (2978)	7/6/1999 11:36:00 PM
From: Yamphung K. Lee	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3033

Yeow!! What happened to all the e-customers!! What a mess. Looks like Luongo and JJ are in a heep of trouble now...have you seen the class action suit? The specifics are pretty damning and this board called it.

To: 45bday who wrote (2978)	7/7/1999 1:39:00 AM
From: P314159d	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3033

Condolences, solution. I was away from the ticker today and did not check on VNTV. I hope my Friday chat had no influence, because I can't say I was happy with the last few days of trade on VNTV because it was going up. I sold at 11.5 because I could not bear another breakdown ( P.S., I own PRMS from 10 to 7 just the past week or so). VNTV was not showing strength. Then it did and I was hoping it would not breakout of 15 without some base. Cause I wanted back in. Now this. My take: CEO will lay good future spin which aids recovery, from wherever? I think 10 may be a good gap down. But wouldn't rule out 8. Recovery seems likely in this market but may be painfully long. What concerns me on VNTV and I stated it here before is the expense chart matching a solid 20+% rev. growth and with huge margins that is a travesty to the investors. They have expected better growth and planned for it and did not get it... Losses result. Unless they reduce total OE, forget $20 until 2001 (late). I can trade here now that I have played so long, but I cannot invest here, until some big changes occur. Vantive is the loser of the big 3 in this biz. So happy I picked it first at 25.5. But even happier to have traded for profit of 30% or so since that fateful beginning. I must go now and figure how to save another ... PRMS. i advise to pick the competition here...to get a winner!