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To: mark silvers who wrote (26070)7/8/1999 11:41:00 AM
From: Andy Thomas  Respond to of 39621
 
Hi Mark,
Another thing we may be forgetting in all of this is the concept of "the stranger" as found in the old testament... if memory serves, in the book of Exodus.

"The stranger" is one who is not born of Jacob but who adopts the ways of the Israelites - in deed and in his heart - and thus "enters into the tribe."

I'm only bringing this up because... what if some modern-day Jews were indeed descendants of someone other than Jacob... couldn't they still be Jews if they've adopted the ways of the Torah/Tanakh?

Does anyone have any commentary on this concept?

In closing, I don't see any problem with believers in Yeshua insisting upon their own "Jewishness," as outlined by certain passages of the New Testament.

In any event it does appear to me that Y-hw-h (and by definition the Messianic concept of the Trinity) is the be all, end all. History makes much more sense when approached in this light.

In other words we can debate the Yeshua issue until the coming of the Messiah (1st or 2nd coming is at the heart of it) but it will not alter the primacy of Y-hw-h.

FWIW
Andy

PS... jeepers... trying to post on this (these) subject(s) without offending anyone is impossible....