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Politics : Clinton's Scandals: Is this corruption the worst ever? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: PiMac who wrote (13083)	7/9/1999 1:37:00 PM
From: PiMac	Respond to of 13994

Freedom. JLA, you believe this is good, yes? I think it silly. Freedom is a zero waiting for an integer to give it value and a dot to give it context. Sure, place holders are fantastic compared to systems without them [yIM] but they only have meaning within a system. Freedom is meaningless without the relationship it holds to some other value. Freedom from physical coercion, freedom to have bliss [marital, children]. No wonder our politics is style without substance!

To: PiMac who wrote (13083)	7/9/1999 1:38:00 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 13994

To jla from PiMac <<I find you state nearly nothing of your beliefs.>> Let me give this one a try. I believe the truth is good. My kids as toddlers know this. It doesn't take high intellect or years of experience. bill, the liar, clinton is scum. I base that emotional display on my beliefs and my feelings about him. <<...simply what is true, good, worthwhile?>> Simply a constitional system honored by its representatives. One that is designed to manifest truth and justice in our land and to be a beacon for others.<<There can be no dialog when all that is offered is criticism and irrelevancies.>> You and bill clinton are irrelevant. He is an insult to the self evident truth of our constitution and you are his butt kisser.

To: PiMac who wrote (13083)	7/9/1999 1:43:00 PM
From: jlallen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 13994

Good = pride in this country, service to others, marriage & fidelity, raising well adjusted and disciplined children, hard work, accepting accountability for one's own actions, truth, calling a spade a spade, keeping one's word, a President who knows how to keep his fly zipped in the presence of young women. A short list, not exhaustive. BTW, I believe if you read the posts (of all) you get a very good sense of their beliefs. Criticism (and irrelevancies) are good things in the context of debating opinion. They force one to defend the various premises upon which those opinions rest. JLA