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To: melinda abplanalp who wrote (31499)	7/10/1999 12:05:00 PM
From: jpmac	Respond to of 71178

And places have a feel to them, and a character. Two places I lived in LA were very shut off, no one talked or knew each other, but when I lived in Sierra Madre, it was very friendly. In SF, most the neighborhoods I was in were friendly. Only the Sunset, which was more 'burby, isolated feeling, was cold and no one acknowledged each other. Here, the neighborhood I was in when I visited was shut off. I got strange looks when I said hello to people on the street. But in the neighborhood I live in, it's very urban, always people walking and sitting in their frontyards, and it's no deal to say "hi" or stop and chat.

To: melinda abplanalp who wrote (31499)	7/10/1999 12:06:00 PM
From: Gauguin	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 71178

I think you're right, it's density. You might prefer NM over Or and WA, unless you're into, like, drowning. The weather here is beyond conception. Really. And people think they can take it, and they can't. It makes a LOT of work to do, too. SF used to be my favorite city, especially the Bay. But I garr antee you, you can get over it. For beauty, Portland is hard to beat (it's the best city by an order of magnitude that I know of) ~ but I wouldn't live there. Here. NM is beautiful, and the least dense population state. And it's not SOGGING.

To: melinda abplanalp who wrote (31499)	7/10/1999 1:23:00 PM
From: jhild	Respond to of 71178

The waving thing I think is a recognition of a shared experience. Like Porsche owners are wont to honk at each other because sight unseen they know the other driver has a repair shop war story. Or like living rural encourages you to wave at most anyone, especially if you are one of the few other humans they have seen that day. So yes, I see it as a density thing, but I also see it more as a connectedness thing by virtue of having something in common. Or maybe it is easier to be nice to other people when there just aren't so many of them.

To: melinda abplanalp who wrote (31499)	7/10/1999 11:22:00 PM
From: Jacques Chitte	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71178

Density - yes. When we drove from Boston to the Bay Area we noticed that between the Appalachians and the Sierra - folks were friendly. The men were all strong, the women handsome and the kids above average. But here in our burb folks aren't very friendly. I try to wave at folks who have my make&model car - but I get mostly dumb or suspicious scowls. Bummer. And the bastards are tearing down schools, strip malls, etc. and putting in dense-pak Executive Mansionettes. There should be a LAW that if someone builds a dwelling in the Area, one or more dwellings should be torn down in balance. We gotta unwind this density thing.