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To: Richnorth who wrote (735)7/10/1999 1:31:00 PM
From: jbe  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1615
 
>>I have written elsewhere, "How odd/of God/to choose/the Jews"<<

Actually the person who wrote those lines was one William Norman Ewer (1885-1976), and they constitute his one claim to fame. Check your Bartlett's before you claim authorship of any such old chestnut.

More from your response to Gaston Billetes:

I guess the truth or even a modicum of it hurts, eh?

I think his basic point was that there was no reason to expect ANY truth from the "World Church of the Creator." And his basic question to you was why YOU felt any could be expected. You did not address the point or answer the question.

Some prople believe that a white supremacist or a Jew might be
reincarnated as a Darkie (Stephen Foster's word for Nigger) and vice versa...


Uh...Nigger? Darkie?? Are those the only two words that come to mind? What century are you living in?

jbe






To: Richnorth who wrote (735)7/10/1999 1:57:00 PM
From: X Y Zebra  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1615
 
My intention in posting that stuff was to share some information and hopefully have some dispassionate and objective discussions about it.

Then state your intention clearly. The word "if" can and is misrepresented or misunderstood, as to the intentions of the poster.

As to have "dispassionate and objective discussions", once again, to achieve such [particularly in this subject] and given the track record of this and similar organizations, you should state so clearly.

Personally, I would find hard to do so, it would seem to me you are either bluffing, lying, or have no spine, but that is my opinion.

you seemed rather paranoid.

Your opinion, not mine. Perhaps if you had faced these type of people you would not be posting this stuff in a rather non-chalant manner.

I guess the truth or even a modicum of it hurts, eh?

I have no idea in what form can such statement would have to do with me, nor I care for you to explain. I simply despise the ideology spouted in the sites you showed. No more, no less.

Rightly or wrongly, I do not believe that any particular race of people represents the CHOSEN ones of God.

Well, at least we seem to have a small amount of common beliefs. However, I go further and I do not believe in the existence of any god, other than the ones created by the different races/religions of one sort or another with the exclusive objective to control their respective people.

My beliefs in regards to "nations", "countries" and the like, goes along these lines:

"Fond of America, proud of her, curious and hopeful about her future, I nevertheless renounce America. My loyalties will not be bound by national borders, or confined in time by one nation's history, or limited in the spiritual dimension by one language and culture. I pledge my allegiance to the damned human race, and my everlasting love to the green hills of Earth, and my imitations of glory to the singing stars, to the very end of space and time. "

~ Edward Abbey

Not my exact words, but it contains the general idea. [I do not necessarily "renounce America",<only her politicians>, but not necessarily 'idolize it' either... and this applies to any country on earth]. I would like to think of myself of a citizen of the world. No, I was not born in the USA, and such should not matter at all.

By the way, some prople believe that a white supremacist or a Jew might be reincarnated as a Darkie (Stephen Foster's word for Nigger)and vice versa. And that some men would be reincarnated as women and vice versa. And all this is said to happen because of Karma. Of course, I do not necessarily believe this to be true.

Frankly, I am not the best person to discuss issues such as the above, to me, re-incarnation, until proven otherwise, is utter nonsense.

Besides, I have a hard time believing you do not espouse this philosophy, as you keep bring it up. You know, I am not the only one that thinks so.

My objectives are other, I do not waste my time "pondering" on this, that, or the other, particularly when "I do not happen to believe on what I post" --that to me it represents "arguing in circles", I do not do such.

Thanks but no thanks.

Now that we have clarified our respective positions, I bid you farewell, as I have no interest in "holding dispassionate discussions" about subjects that are clearly [at least to me] nonsense, or potentially the source of criminal behavior.

No, I am not of a closed mind, but I value my time, and I have better things to do.

I responded originally as I took your post as someone pushing this stuff, hence I was interested in giving you my side. I did.

Goodbye



To: Richnorth who wrote (735)7/10/1999 5:35:00 PM
From: Father Terrence  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1615
 
1. God, as envisioned by [mystic] Man does not exist.

2. Only mystics believe in "karma".

3. Nations are steered by ideas, a philosophy (or lack of one), values (or lack of same), and people of the mind who create and produce, dragging the rest of humanity behind them (including the mystics -- who kick and scream and complain because they would rather have squatted in caves and drooled in wonder at the points of light in the night sky).

4. Individuals who lead the world are not mystics or politicians. The real leaders are those that create in the present what we call "the future". The future is shaped in the mind, today.

Terrence



To: Richnorth who wrote (735)7/10/1999 5:38:00 PM
From: Father Terrence  Respond to of 1615
 
"By the way, some people believe that a white supremacist or a Jew might be reincarnated as a Darkie (Stephen Foster's word for Nigger)and vice versa. And that some men would be reincarnated as women and vice versa. And all this is said to happen because of Karma. Of course, I do not necessarily believe this to be true."

You do not necessarily believe it is true? Come on, it's bullshit! That you would attach any credibility at all to that idea is absolutely mind-boggling!!

Terrence



To: Richnorth who wrote (735)7/10/1999 5:42:00 PM
From: Father Terrence  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1615
 
You may continue to quote me only if you agree to pay me US $5.00 each time you do. If you would like I can send you a postal address where you can send the money. I have a special running this month: 10 quotes for $39.95. That's a savings of $10.05 off the normal quote rates.

Why not go for the bargain? Act now!!

Terrence