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To: Mao II who wrote (2873)7/11/1999 8:58:00 AM
From: Kenya AA  Respond to of 12662
 
M2: I don't short stocks, but if I did, I sure wouldn't short EBAY here. RS is still 99! I can't believe that they won't get their server problem fixed very soon, although I've been saying that for a few weeks. The outage problems and their effects on earnings are the only things keeping this stock where it is. But, we shall see. I'm just staying away until they get their act together.

K



To: Mao II who wrote (2873)7/12/1999 12:18:00 AM
From: Jimbo Cobb  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 12662
 
M2...What do you think of IMOT, as a play on CHINA.COM IPO ???????????

I don't know anything about the funnies, it's a BB stock...gotta be quick with the trigger, but I think it'll bounce at least 25-50% this week on China.COM IPO....

R U N 4 a few shares ?????????????

roll dem bones....................

jajajajajajajaja

Jimbo.



To: Mao II who wrote (2873)7/12/1999 11:23:00 AM
From: Kenya AA  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 12662
 
M2 and Thread: This sounds interesting ....

Will ICG Be the New CMGI?
By Adam Lashinsky
Silicon Valley Columnist
7/12/99 7:00 AM ET


You'd probably never heard of CMG Information Services before the obscure direct marketer morphed into CMGI (CMGI:Nasdaq), the Internet venture firm with a rocket-powered stock. Shares of CMGI, the new majority owner of AltaVista, and an early backer of Lycos (LCOS:Nasdaq) and Geocities among others, have soared 14-fold in the past year. But not many investors knew the CMGI story a year ago.

The good news is, you will soon get the chance to buy shares in a company that could well become the next CMGI: Internet Capital Group. The Wayne, Pa.-based company, which has been investing almost exclusively in business-to-business e-commerce companies, has filed for an initial public offering expected to be completed before the end of the summer. It's a big deal: ICG's proposed valuation tops $1 billion.

That's $1 billion-plus for a portfolio of companies that had first-quarter revenue of $3 million. Investors won't be buying ICG shares based on the underlying business fundamentals of its investments, though. Rather, they'll be looking to invest in an unusual business model: a publicly traded venture capital firm.

So far, four-year-old ICG has been a solid success. For instance, it netted $29 million on a seed investment in MatchLogic, which was acquired by Excite; it also racked up a $5 million profit on an early investment in WiseWire, which was acquired by Lycos.

In its biggest success to date, ICG paid $21 million for a 37% stake in VerticalNet (VERT:Nasdaq), a business-to-business e-commerce portal based in Horsham, Pa. VerticalNet went public in February, and ICG'S stake is now worth about $700 million.

Two other ICG holdings are nearing IPOs of their own: Deja.com, which used to be the newsgroup site Deja News and now offers Web surfers the chance to comment on a variety of products and issues, and Breakaway Solutions, a systems integrator. Deja.com, in which ICG holds a 32% stake, filed in mid-June to go public, with plans to raise as much as $57.5 million.

Boston-based Breakaway Solutions, in which ICG holds a 57% stake, is expected to file for a public offering shortly. Included among the 35 ICG portfolio companies that aren't close to achieving their own "liquidity events" are plays in chemicals, paper, plastics, construction, printing, auto parts and consulting services. It's a gritty bunch that lack the glamour of eBay (EBAY:Nasdaq), Amazon.com (AMZN:Nasdaq) and Yahoo! (YHOO:Nasdaq) -- but they could still produce big revenue.

An Internet Capital Group executive declined to comment, citing the obligatory quiet period before its pending IPO. But the company has been discussing its strategy since it opened shop in 1996. ICG's early focus on business-to-business may once have seemed a little loopy -- but no longer, with business-oriented sites moving to center stage in the hunt for hot Internet investments.

Even their would-be competitors are impressed. "They caught a wave," says Robert Kagle, a partner at Benchmark Capital, a Menlo Park, Calif., venture capital firm that has been a heavyweight in business-to-consumer Internet ventures. "They have as interesting a collection of B-to-B investments as anyone out there."

The ICG collectors begin with CEO Walter Buckley, a former mergers and acquisitions executive with Safeguard Scientifics (SFE:NYSE). Safeguard, also based in Wayne, is best known as an early investor in Novell (NOVL:Nasdaq) and Cambridge Technology Partners (CATP:Nasdaq). Safeguard is also ICG's single biggest investor, with an 18% stake. Other major investors in ICG include Compaq (CPQ:NYSE), Comcast (CMCSA:Nasdaq) and General Electric Capital.

ICG's connections go deeper than grubstakes from industrial behemoths. The company has slavishly followed one of Silicon Valley's favorite strategies for priming the stock market and potential customer base by setting up an advisory board of industry heavy hitters. The model is simple: Recruit big shots, give them stock and get their wisdom for the benefit of portfolio companies. ICG's advisory board includes execs from Cisco Systems (CSCO:Nasdaq), Coca-Cola (KO:NYSE), Exodus Communications (EXDS:Nasdaq), IBM (IBM:NYSE) and Merrill Lynch (MER:NYSE). Not coincidentally, Merrill is lead underwriter for ICG's offering.

On one level, it is somewhat disturbing that ICG wants to go public at all. Venture firms historically maintain funds that take years to pay off, making quarterly performance effectively meaningless. But ICG has said it wants to be a combination of a venture-capital firm, a leveraged-buyout company that can commit large amounts of capital, and a G.E.-like holding company, lending the expertise of its top brass to each partner company.

And of course, ICG wants to participate in the craze for Internet stocks through its investments and through its own stock. But that part, you already knew.



To: Mao II who wrote (2873)7/12/1999 11:30:00 AM
From: Kenya AA  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 12662
 
M2: FWIW, sounds like Cramer agrees with you.

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K

Steeling the Net Against Outages
By James J. Cramer

7/12/99 11:00 AM ET


When you hear eBay (EBAY:Nasdaq) outage or E*Trade (EGRP:Nasdaq) outage or anything outage, immediately think Net Achilles heel. Amazing, but these Net stocks trade to the upside like great growth vehicles, but they trade to the downside like steel stocks.

I can't tell you how many times I would be taking a big position in Bethlehem Steel (BS:NYSE), huge mega-sizers, and everything would be looking all systems go, and boom, they would have a relining outage or a problem in some cold-rolled steel plant that would cause them to miss, and BS would just roll over.

I would then be buried alive in BS!

That's how the Net is trading right now. Here's the mindset as I see it: "eBay outage? Heck, sell the darn thing. Sell all of 'em -- they could all have outages. Who can take the chance that my Net company has an outage? Get me out of the Net and into some company that benefits from Net outages."

Is it any wonder that Sun Micro (SUNW:Nasdaq) is up while eBay is down?

I don't want to tell you what finally happened to stocks like BS. Nobody wanted them. That's why it is imperative that the money be spent to avoid the outages, even if it crimps short-term profitability. The whole sector gets pole-axed by this stuff.





To: Mao II who wrote (2873)7/12/1999 4:04:00 PM
From: Kenya AA  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 12662
 
M2: I hope you listened 2 U and not 2 me!!! Next stop 105?

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K