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Politics : Hillary Rodham Clinton, Senator from New York? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: melinda abplanalp who wrote (263)	7/11/1999 11:34:00 AM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3389

Mel, my house is in a little disarray after the trip. Could you direct me to the specific issue of Rolling Stone with the Bush article?

To: melinda abplanalp who wrote (263)	7/21/1999 3:24:00 PM
From: Zoltan!	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 3389

>>Go Hillary. NYers want "her disgrace" to go down: Hillary's popularity in N.Y. is dwindling First lady and Giuliani reverse standing in polls by William Bunch Daily News Staff Writer - 7/21/99 It would be the kind of election that comes around once every millennium: A wronged first lady and liberal icon in a first-in-history showdown for the U.S. Senate against a combative Republican mayor who did the unthinkable in causing New York City's crime rate to plummet. The likely 2000 election pitting Hillary Rodham Clinton against Rudolph Giuliani - a war that would be waged in the media capital of the world - has had pundits salivating for months. There's only one problem. It might not happen. Indeed, there's growing evidence that Clinton was a much more popular candidate in New York before she actually showed up there and started campaigning. Six months ago, polls showed that Clinton - whose arrival froze out a bevy of other possible Democratic candidates - led Giuliani statewide by as many as 10 points or more in the race to replace retiring U.S. Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan. But two separate surveys released last week show the first lady trailing the New York mayor by six to 10 percentage points. Dick Morris, the former adviser to President Clinton who's an author and columnist for the New York Post, turned a lot of heads before the surveys were out by predicting flat out that the first lady would not run. "I don't think she's going to," Morris said recently in a telephone interview with the Daily News. He said that Clinton and her supporters were slow to realize that her early lead in the polls was a combination of sympathy from the Senate impeachment trial over the Monica Lewinsky sex scandal and bad publicity for Giuliani in the shooting of an unarmed African immigrant. "She's caught in a catch-22," Morris said. "The more that she comes to New York and goes to every last Rotary Club, the more she looks like a typical politician. But the more she does first-lady events like going to refugee camps in Macedonia, the more she underscores the fact that she's not from New York - and she falls in the polls." Morris and other cynics have suggested that Clinton could come up with an excuse - either the need to be with her family or to stay in the White House and deal with national issues with her husband - to drop out of the race. That said, the odds are still strongly in favor of Hillary Clinton - who spent last week on a much-ballyhooed "listening tour" that took her across the state - announcing officially this fall that she will be a candidate. This week, even as her poll numbers dropped, aides to Clinton were talking about raising as much as $25 million for the campaign, which would be a record for a U.S. Senate race. What's more, Clinton's much-ballyhooed formation of an exploratory committee caused several leading Democrats to stay out of the race and U.S. Rep. Nita Lowey to scuttle her planned entry, would make a late pullout an embarrassing fiasco that might doom any future runs. A recent survey by the widely respected polling firm Zogby International showed that while Clinton was trailing, she continues to have a better approval rating than Giuliani in New York City, the mayor's political base. But the likely GOP candidate holds a 2-1 lead in the critical swing suburbs that voted for Bill Clinton in 1996. And the first lady's campaign surely won't be helped by weeks like last week, which included gloomy poll numbers and an embarrassing gaffe in which she described a young man who was actually sitting in the front row of an anti-gun rally as a murder victim. The combo caused both the Post and its tabloid rival, the New York Daily News, to write on the front page that "Hillary's slip is showing." Philadelphia-based Democratic consultant Neil Oxman, who advises a number of House and Senate candidates nationwide, thinks Clinton is likely in the New York race to stay, but wonders why she hasn't given more of a rationale for running in a state she's never lived in. "She's never stood up and said that my parents were born in Pennsylvania and we moved to Illinois, but my whole life I've wanted to live in New York," said Oxman. Oxman, who has crossed over to work for the GOP's Sam Katz in the Philadelphia mayor's race, also fretted at the possibility that the Clintons would rent an oversized mansion in Westchester County from a connected financier for a reduced rent of $10,000 a month. Bill Schneider, the Washington-based political analyst for CNN, said that the "carpetbagger" issue of Clinton having never lived in New York will continue to dog her campaign. He noted that the state's past outsider Senate winners, like Robert F. Kennedy and James Buckley, had either lived or worked there before their election. Like Oxman and most other pundits, Schneider expects that Clinton will run, although he added that Vice President Al Gore, the party's frontrunner for the 2000 presidential nomination, will probably be secretly thrilled if she drops out and he doesn't have to compete with her for attention and campaign contributions. "All signs point to her running," agreed Larry Sabato, the University of Virginia expert on national politics and the media. He said that not only would a withdrawal at this point seem a major embarrassment, but national Democrats would blame her if the Moynihan seat went Republican. Sabato also notes that if Clinton didn't run, talk-driven TV networks like MSNBC that are already talking about the race almost nightly would be devastated. "The pundits wouldn't let her withdraw," Sabato said, chuckling. phillynews.com

To: melinda abplanalp who wrote (263)	7/27/1999 6:05:00 PM
From: Zoltan!	Respond to of 3389

Giuliani has funraising/creates good cheer on his ridicule the Worst Lady tour: Tuesday July 27 5:25 PM ET New York's Giuliani Heads Into Hillary Territory By Ellen Wulfhorst LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (Reuters) - New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani raised money for his U.S. Senate bid in Hillary Rodham Clinton's home state Tuesday and ridiculed the first lady, his likely opponent, for setting her sights on a political office in New York, where she has never lived. At a news conference outside the mansion where the Clintons lived when President Clinton was governor, Giuliani declined to answer questions about a local Arkansas issue, saying, ''Right now I'm just here listening,'' a mocking reference to the first lady's so-called ''listening tour'' of New York. ''If I become a candidate in Arkansas, that is something I will have a very strong position on,'' he added. Clinton, who is considering a run for a U.S. Senate seat opening up in New York, has been conducting her ''listening tour'' since early July. The tour is designed for her to learn about New York issues rather than make policy statements. It is due to resume Thursday. Giuliani, who has been quick to note Clinton has never lived or worked in New York, initially tried to paint his trip to Little Rock as just one leg of a three-day fund-raising swing through the South. ''I see it as no different as what I did last year when I went to 20 states,'' he insisted as he appeared under magnolia trees in sweltering heat with Arkansas Republican Gov. Mike Huckabee and Lt. Gov. Win Rockefeller. Minutes later he conceded the visit was ''a combination of fun and serious politics.'' Asked if his appearance was meant as a jab at Clinton, he broke into a mischievous grin. ''Oh gosh, I would never do that,'' said the mayor, who is widely known for his sharp tongue and prickly demeanor. ''It's not in my personality to do anything like that.'' By the time the news conference was over Giuliani had promised to raise the Arkansas state flag over New York's City Hall, which was accomplished by mid-afternoon. As he introduced Giuliani, the Arkansas governor left little doubt where he stood on the possibility that the first lady might run for the U.S. Senate seat in New York. ''He has never been here before. He has never worked here. He's never lived here. Today he will be announcing his candidacy for some major significant political office in Arkansas, or so we're told,'' Huckabee said in jest. Giuliani, who is not running for office in Arkansas, raised $40,000 at a Little Rock event, aides said. The entire five-stop trip was expected to raise $150,000 to $200,000. Aides said the trip was also a way to raise Giuliani's national profile as he considers running for the Senate seat held by retiring Democratic Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan. Neither Clinton nor Giuliani have officially announced their candidacies, but both have established exploratory committees that enable them to raise campaign funds. Clinton would have no opposition for the Democratic nomination, but Giuliani would face a possible primary challenge from Republican Rep. Rick Lazio, a more conservative Long Island Republican. In Little Rock, where residents are well used to politicians and the crowds of reporters that follow, the appearance by the mayor of New York City evoked weary smiles. ''She doesn't need to be up there in New York any more than he needs to be down here,'' said Peter Davis, a farmer's market vendor. ''But I bet people would give him money just to see her lose, just like I bet they give her money to see him lose.'' Outside the elegant governor's mansion, some Giuliani backers held up signs, one misspelling his name ''Rudi'' instead of ''Rudy'' and another reading ''Hogs Against Hillary,'' depicting the University of Arkansas's popular razorback mascot. A new poll said while Clinton made a good impression during her ''listening tour'' through central New York state in early July, she did not improve her poll numbers. The survey conducted July 17-19 by Zogby International showed Giuliani leading Clinton by 49.1 to 39.4 percent, unchanged since its June poll when Giuliani led 50.4 percent to 40.2 percent. The survey of 709 likely New York state voters had a margin of error of 3.8 percentage points. dailynews.yahoo.com