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To: Paul Engel who wrote (64760)	7/11/1999 6:08:00 PM
From: RDM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576113

<My bet is that Merced will be very competitive with Alpha in floating point - right out of the chute.> Good floating point cannot hurt, but I would be concerned more about transactions per second and performance of Oracle. Neither of these may be directly sensitive to floating point performance. The Alpha floating point may be matched by the K7 with 4MB of cache in some benchmarks. Time will tell how close.

To: Paul Engel who wrote (64760)	7/11/1999 6:36:00 PM
From: kapkan4u	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576113

<Paul - re: My bet is that Merced will be very competitive with Alpha in floating point - right out of the chute.> Paul, Define competitive. Is 30% slower on SPECFP competitive? Hypothetically speaking of course. Kap.

To: Paul Engel who wrote (64760)	7/11/1999 9:50:00 PM
From: fyo	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1576113

Paul - Re: My bet is that Merced will be very competitive with Alpha in floating point - right out of the chute. Just out of curiosity... would this be the 21264 or the 21364? I realize that Alpha has yet to demonstrate their ability to execute the 21364 - indeed their 21264 has some ways to go in terms of ramping. --fyodor

To: Paul Engel who wrote (64760)	7/28/1999 10:51:00 PM
From: Rob Young	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1576113

Paul, > My bet is that Merced will be very competitive with Alpha in > floating point - right out of the chute. What's funny is to see HP (or pick a vendor) compare the performance of their latest box and leave an Alpha out of the comparison. Line up PowerPC, UltraSparc, Intel, MIPS and PA-RISC but no Alpha .. time and again. If the Alpha was more than 30% faster when Merced plops out, would that be "very competitive?" I'll Intel will have to pick a year old Alpha to be competitive late next year. Speaking of bets, I'll be IBM will be volume shipping a 1 GHz Alpha before year-end 1999. techweb.com Today a 667 MHz Alpha obtains 65 SpecFp95. What would you consider fp competitive to an Alpha late next year, pick a SpecFp95 number. I mean a bet isn't worth pondering unless you can zero in on something. Rob