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To: jbe who wrote (45152)	7/12/1999 5:55:00 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

Well, I don't even know what my own IQ is. The way I look at it, if it's high, I will be even more unbearable than I already am, and if it's low, I will suffer injury to my all important self-esteem. Ignorance is bliss. (I do know that I am eligible for Mensa, based on my SAT, and Nihil has already told me that Mensans are dummies compared to the 3 Sigma Society or something like that. We argued about all this before you became a thread regular.) I think my So What argument was directed towards using IQ and ability tests to rank groups of people based on race, color, creed, national origin, sex, or sexual preference. IQ tests are given to individuals. I am not good at statistics, but I believe it is meaningless to administer an IQ test to all members of a group, take all the IQ tests, average them out, and then predict what any individual's IQ would be based on his/her membership in the group. And even if we knew for a fact that Laplanders had a higher IQ than Norwegians, So What?

To: jbe who wrote (45152)	7/12/1999 7:46:00 PM
From: Rambi	Respond to of 108807

Joan- The So What attitude is occasionally helpful when dealing with schools and tiny red tapey minds. Anyone who truly understands testing is not going to allow it to dictate a course of action. It is one tool in assessment. But incompetent people rely on it too much and can use it against parents and kids. I think I would change the the inflection of the phrase "So what?" from implying, "Who cares, you idiot, what do you know, big deal," to "So What does that mean in terms of my child's whole profile and what can you offer him?" I will give our school system credit. I argued with them about placing one child in an honors course and they allowed him in despite a test score. He did fine. Another time he didn't and I pulled him out. (I wrote a real nice thank you for being so wonderful note to them.) We just have to be so careful not to allow these things to become weapons or ratings of worth.