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To: Tom Clarke who wrote (56100)	7/13/1999 1:58:00 PM
From: Achilles	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

> Your friend who calls himself a marxist monarchist sounds like he just likes to stir the pot and get some debate going. They certainly are antithetical to each other. Wouldn't a marxist monarch be a dictator?< To make it even messier, he's a marxist constitutional monarchist. (He lives in Britain; wants to keep the queen; but also wants to nationalize much of the economy. He's good fun to go for a pint with.)

To: Tom Clarke who wrote (56100)	7/13/1999 2:09:00 PM
From: Neocon	Respond to of 67261

Historically, the continuum between Right and Left was from traditional society (the Ancien Regime), with monarchs, inherited social classes, and a heavy dose of clericalism, to "social democracy", which was democratic, classless, and secular. Communism and anarchism represented the most radical conceptions of "social democracy". So- called bourgeois democracy, otherwise known as classical liberalism, was Leftist in respect of the Ancien Regime, but Rightist relative to out and out socialists and beyond. Now, conservatives are more or less old- fashioned liberals, and "liberals" are (mild) social democrats. The economic divide has to do with a respect for property rights, including the amassing of wealth and inheritance,on the one hand; and the attempt to narrow income gaps and attack inherited wealth through politics, on the other....