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To: Johannes Pilch who wrote (56171)7/13/1999 8:04:00 PM
From: Neocon  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 67261
 
Okay, one more time...The principle is that there shall not be government establishment of religion. I object to the "entanglement" standard as being an overly broad ramification from the original, but I agree that "proselytizing" would be impermissible. I was content to argue that the majority should win on the 10 commandments issue as long as I could argue that posting it was innocuous, and did not amount proselytizing, although I suggested that there should be representation for substantial minorities within a school as a matter of policy. Then, Achilles made a good point about how someone might readily draw out the implication that being a good citizen meant that one had to adhere to a monotheistic religion, at which point, upon consideration, I amended my policy suggestion and said that I thought that it ought to be mandatory, when there are students of another faith in a school, to have more inclusive posting, in order to ensure against the drawing out of that implication, which would indeed put inordinate pressure on non- Jews/Christians/Muslims to conform. Saying that it is a local issue is insufficient, since the principle has by now been applied at all levels of government, and for good reason, I think...
....No one is forced to be an Atheist. I do not even understand how you can make so categorical an assertion...
....Why is there hostility to Civic Religion, which may be characterized as the AA version of religion: belief in a higher power, one that calls one to reformation and will help one to accomplish it? All else is sectarian, and properly beyond the pale of government sponsorship...
....No one agrees with every use to which public funds are put, and we rarely allow them to opt out. Vietnam protesters who withheld their taxes went to jail; no one gets a rebate because they dislike "In God We Trust" being on the coins; one cannot ask for a dime back because one disapproves of Ken Starr, or disapproves of Madeleine Albright...
....No one is forced to atheism. People of distinct cultures and religions inhabit a common public area. What is so wrong with that?...
....We do not fund National Atheism, and should not fund National Christianity...
....I still think that everyone can be adequately accommodated, but if not, I do not think the solution is "community control", but privatization...