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Politics : Clinton's Scandals: Is this corruption the worst ever? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: PiMac who wrote (13270)	7/16/1999 2:35:00 AM
From: PiMac	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 13994

Darrell, let me make my purpose more clear with clearly stating the principles in play: When there is no law, there is no crime; when the law is the criminal, the law abiding must break the law. This was BC's situation; he did what was Right.

To: PiMac who wrote (13270)	7/16/1999 8:11:00 AM
From: Catfish	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 13994

PiMac, I think you are full of it. Of course, she had a case. This entire scenario was the "modus operandi" of Trooper-Gate". It was the ultimate in sexual harassment. PJ's problem was getting evidence in backing up her case. It doesn't help when you have an "officer of the court" (Clinton) committing perjury. Also, it didn't help that the perjury was an abuser of his power. Except for circumstantial evidence that implicated Clinton's guilt, it was her word against his. But remember, most convictions are based on circumstantial evidence. Eye witnesses are the exception most of the time. Clinton was a perpetrator of an unlawful act. He was caught in a lie and paid the price. You are still trying to justify Clinton's behavior. There is no acceptable justification for this sexual predator. He is still sitting in office by virtue of his arrogance, lack of shame, and abuse of power. You should be ashamed and appalled by this President. To add fuel to the fire, here are some you may not have heard of: Mary Mahoney White House Intern died 7/97 An attractive 25 year old woman, Mary was a former White House Intern for Bill Clinton working as the Assistant Manager at a Starbuck's Coffee shop in Georgetown. In the pre-trial publicity surrounding Paula Jones lawsuit, and mere days after Newsweek's Mike Isikoff had dropped hints that a "former White House staffer" was about to go public with her story of sexual harassement at 1600 Pennsylvania, gunmen entered the Starbuck's while the crew was cleaning up after closing. Mary's two associates were taken to a room and shot. Mary herself had five bullets in her. No money was taken. As of this writing, Mike Isikoff's "former White House staffer" has never appeared. Suzanne Coleman Had affair with Clinton when he was attorney general. Died of "suicide" with gunshot wound to the back of her head. No autopsy performed. Was pregnant at time of her death. Some say it was Clintons. Kathy Furguson Ex-wife of Trooper Danny Furguson died: circa 5/94 Died of a supposed gunshot suicide in her living room. There was a suicide note found by the body. However, friends were surprise at having noticed nothing wrong previously. And even more curious, found nearby were several packed suitcases, as if she expected she was going somewhere. She was the former wife (since changed her name) of Trooper Danny Ferguson, who is the Arkansas State Trooper alleged to have escorted Paula Corbin Jones to the hotel room for her alleged episode of sexual harrassment by then-Governor Clinton. Ferguson's wife was reported as a possible corroborating witness for Ms. Jones. Bill Shelton Arkansas state trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson died: 6/94 Allegedly committed suicide by shooting himself at the gravesite of his fiancee - Officer Shelton was the fiancee of Kathy Ferguson, who was the ex-wife of Trooper Danny Ferguson. Kathy Ferguson also committed "suicide" 6/94 when she shot herself in her living room. Oddly, next to the body were her packed bags, as if she was expecting to be going somewhere. Danny Ferguson is a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in Paula Corbin Jones's sexual harassment suit. His ex-wife was reported as a corroborating witness for Ms. Jones. The above are part of a list from the following website: gate.net

To: PiMac who wrote (13270)	7/16/1999 8:32:00 AM
From: Zoltan!	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 13994

More from the most corrupt Administration in US history: July 16, 1999 ESSAY / By WILLIAM SAFIRE Whitewash at Justice -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The most dramatic clash between the F.B.I. and the heavily politicized Reno Department of Justice took place in February 1997. Stimulated by press reports of "the Asian connection" to the Clinton-Gore campaign, the Bureau teletyped all field offices for reports on foreign attempts to influence U.S. political campaigns. On Washington's Birthday the F.B.I.'s counterintelligence chief, John Lewis, delivered a packet of those top-secret reports to Janet Reno. "The Attorney General gave the packet of teletypes to then Deputy Attorney General Jamie Gorelick," reports Michael Bromwich, the in-house Inspector General. At the same time, White House Counsel Charles Ruff made two calls to Justice seeking to find out what embarrassment was in store. Never told by Ms. Reno of F.B.I. restrictions on the documents, Ms. Gorelick bucked them to the Office of Intelligence Policy and Review. They then blithely passed them on to Laura Ingersoll's Justice "task force," selected for its ineptitude. Nothing doing, said the F.B.I., which "retrieved the packet shortly after the Task Force received it," according to Bromwich. When I asked the F.B.I. Director, Louis Freeh, yesterday if he had been aware of the confrontation -- an unprecedented dispatch of agents to snatch back evidence from Main Justice -- he replied, "I knew about it and certainly approved of it." What was going on? The F.B.I., though slow off the mark and unaware of all the leads it had in its computers, was getting evidence of China's efforts to penetrate our political system. Ruff's calls show that the Clinton White House hungered for it. Justice was passing the surveillance of messages to Ted Sieong and Maria Hsia -- both in direct contact with Al Gore in his fund-raising -- all over the building. And so the F.B.I. acted to prevent contacts with the White House officials under investigation, to avoid the sort of improper "heads up" given them in Whitewater. The F.B.I. meekly genuflected when Ms. Reno's lapdog I.G. chastised it for cooperating too much with Congress rather than Main Justice, but Freeh says grimly: "None of that changes my resolve to limit dissemination that would undermine the integrity of a criminal investigation." The name-no-names whitewash by Ms. Reno's I.G. admits that Congress was not given two pieces of espionage information it should have had until September 1997 -- after the Senate investigators had all but closed shop and Democrats happily declared the Asian penetration unproven. Bromwich's 569-page report dumping on the F.B.I. and claiming innocent ineptitude on high is stamped "top secret" because it might jeopardize an ongoing failure at Justice. The two of its deep, dark secrets mentioned above are covered in Elizabeth Drew's new book that has a chapter about the successful obstruction of the Thompson committee investigation, "The Corruption of American Politics." One is the Hong Kong source of the $400,000 contribution of Indonesia's Sieong, most of it routed to the Democratic National Committee through his resident alien daughter. He was seated next to Al Gore during Maria Hsia's Buddhist fund-raiser, and his money was never returned by the Democrats; because money is fungible, China's contribution will buy spots in Campaign 2000. Another secret was sent the committee only after its hearings were over. It alleged that Ms. Hsia had recruited someone in California's state government to be "an agent" for China. In the Bromwich sandwich, eight more bits of intelligence information concealed from Congressional oversight are deliciously embedded, but not for the public to see until after the next election. "It looks to me," says Fred Thompson, "that people at high levels of Justice and the Bureau had access to significant information very early on. We need to find out what was held back and why. Was it rank incompetence, as in the Department of Energy, or was it a deliberate holding back at Justice for political purposes?" Here was a dangerous triple failure. First our counterintelligence failed to take seriously the fund-raising-espionage connections. Then our Justice prosecutors failed, letting middle-level perpetrators walk lest they lead to higher-ups. Finally, our Congressional oversight failed, obstructed by partisans who put party ahead of country. nytimes.com