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To: nihil who wrote (45817)	7/16/1999 11:23:00 AM
From: jbe	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

<<You are wise to restrict this position to prose.>> Actually, nihil, I restrict it to expository prose. As I noted in later posts, when you get to imaginative prose (novels, plays, etc.), let alone poetry, there are different standards of excellence. And so you get the Ezra Pound controversy, to take only the most notorious example. But -- are you telling me that you are moved by the words of the Marseillaise, when they are lying cold on the page, without the melody? Pretty awful stuff, I would say -- in style as well as content. Same goes for "Dixie." I'm not that keen on the "Recessional" either, although it is of another order altogether, and does have some good lines. I am really not sure whether I personally can separate style from substance, even in poetry. Joan

To: nihil who wrote (45817)	7/16/1999 1:29:00 PM
From: Ilaine	Respond to of 108807

"Do you like Kipling?" "I don't know, I've never kipled." Actually, I do like Kipling, and don't hate myself for liking him. But I am a connoisieur of 19th century literature, especially Southern literature, and I assure you that if you are offended by non-PC prose or poetry, you won't like it. I just accept racism, sexism, jingoism, and all the other social ills as par for the course at the time. They didn't live in our times and can't be judge by our standards. As far as that goes, one would be forced to ditch 20th century writers like Faulkner, Hemingway, Mailer and Miller, among countless others, if one were too offended by latent racism, sexism and jingoism to be able to read works written by offenders.