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To: Bobby Yellin who wrote (37246)	7/16/1999 10:01:00 PM
From: long-gone	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116764

<<still think bill murphy should contact jesse jackson>> Maybe we should each get an ear pierced(or anything else one is willing to show) and hang a 1/10 K-Rand from the hole(s) and tell all it is "to Help South African Miners". If we could get some Hollywood cuties to do it, and show the filled hholes on major TV....

To: Bobby Yellin who wrote (37246)	7/17/1999 4:13:00 AM
From: d:oug	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 116764

<<...rotten experience..teenagers throwing...it was purposiveful..>> Morgy_Dog, my opinion on <<0/t or on topic>> is that this is on topic the same way that the mood or perception can determine strongly how people view their condition as good neutral or poor, and act according as in this USA economic everyone with money in the stockmarket has seened it rise quickly and noticed that any sharp drop was quickly countered by a upwards climb, resulting in a feeling that all is ok, and the ok will continue and get even better. I would now like to touch on the rock throwing by the young people of teenage age that you and your friend experienced, and make a connection to their parents and this very good USA economy which I think is a bubble ready to explode thru its own incorrect making and not because of any Bill Murphy GATA possible needle prick that will pop it sooner than the later for sure. Also to me, the sooner this bubble pops, the less servere and quicker will be a recovery, with gold being the necessary medicine to prevent the foolish ways of paper money. We all heard on the news about the young teenagers doing what we adults consider as irrational and senceless acts or activities. All of these things were done during our and our parents times during the teenage years, but to a much lesser percentage of the young, and in those extreme cases of the taken of a person's life or destruction of property most could be explained thru the kids living conditions or environment or influences of other people or mental illness. The percentage of teenages involved now is greater and that increase has been looked at and found that unlike the "expected" occurance of all generations, those in this "extra" can not be explained by using those understood diagnosis methods that pointed to a cause and effect. A current example is that very recent highschool killing of classmates from some members in a trench coat pack. So persons I know report to me that they limit very much what they see on the tv as most of it is to attract viewers so that the commericals will pay a higher rate of purchase time if the rating are high. I agree that this is the case with sex, violence, grief and the like as what the average, read most, viewers will tune in for. But if one wants to understand what the average person in USA is about, then one must know what facts and influence they receive, and this is the stuff from tv, or as you check out food at the market notice what reading material is presented in front of you for buying, which reflects what most USA persons read, and its easy to read news magazines with the stories made to catch your attention, and also those newspaper type magazines that always have gross and far out gossip items. Each generation has the gift of advancements in technology and medicine and even entertainment. If I was born today, rather than the coke soda bottle eyeglasses I wore to see further than 5 inches from my nose, it would be either soft contacts or laser surgery and bingo 20/20. And rather than a tv with at most 3 channels and very conservative, its now large and really almost anything goes. Atleast I always knew indoor bathrooms and indoor running water when my father build the house a couple years after I arrived, but I do remember the farm a short distance away where the water came from a well that you pumped the lever up and down, and the wood little outhouse with a hole in the wood you sat on that if you looked into it all you saw was darkness, which was good ofcourse not to see. But about 5 years later the farm welcomed the new stuff, eventho grandpa still used what he was use to, until the cold winter came and he felt the warm indoor seat and decided to try it out rather than the ice cold seat a outside. Warm weather came and grandpa was a believer by then and took down the smelly outhouse. Back to what the average person in USA receives as to whats happening, its needed to ask who decides what is presented on tv and paper. As for the rating that already decided, the blood and guts and hurt and with as much as possible stories to invoke feelings of good over bad. And then for what is the truth, as in how are stories told and preented so that the viewer or reader and obtain insight and understand ? Well, here we have a problem, as in those who decide whats what are filled up with the controlled in and out of stuff of tv and paper, plus even if they know that a one sided or incomplete explaination is given, they have to satisfy the rating for the commercials, so take it easy and slow and make it entertaining. Also, these deciders of what the USA people receive are mostly a product of the same stuff they put forward, in that these who control what most USA people get as facts are complete missing the mark and mostly unknowlable of what the real story is. And to make matter wrost, these deciders of the news presented do not want to step outside of what they hold as facts and correct, as in doing so will identify to them that they are incorrect in many ways, private and personal and public. This post is now much too long, so I will say only now that there are studies and papers on those teenagers throwing stones and pebbles and bullets at others, and the reasons to explain are not presented on the tv or Time magazine. I bet the USA stock market bubble will pop, and those who did not and cannot exit in time to save their investments will be left with bills too large for their paychecks, and iou's of credit cards due that they will not be able to make. They will cry not my fault and turn in the tv news and hope all rest of USA is in same boat so the USA government will forgive their debts and print more paper money to pay off the big and small banks the money due, and pass the iou's of payback to the next generation. Or maybe not and those holding gold above or below the ground will smile and say I told you so to those crying. doug