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To: Simba who wrote (64779)7/17/1999 8:48:00 PM
From: Earlie  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 132070
 
Simba:

Good comments. I have written about this in the past. The best term I've heard to describe this is "buying revenues", and you are absolutely correct that Cisco is one of the best at this game.

Over time, it can catch up with a company, as typically more and more is paid for less and less (the good ones get scooped up in the early going). Loewen Group was a prime example of this, although a crazy Mississippi court sure didn't do the company any favours.

About once a year, I'll subtract the probable revenue contributions provided by acquisitions made by companies in which I have an interest, but it is a relatively useless exercise as the market simply doesn't want to know. Nor does the market care to calculate the amount of shareholder dilution some of these acquisitions cause. Reminds me of the total lack of interest investors exhibit in employee option scams,...er situations. (g)

best, Earlie

Your comments are right on.

Best, Earlie



To: Simba who wrote (64779)7/18/1999 11:15:00 AM
From: Knighty Tin  Respond to of 132070
 
Simba, The SEC has been complaining about in-process research. Now, the cos. report the real earnings along with the operational eps. For example, Yahoo reported headlines that they "earned" 11 cents per share pro forma and in the fine print you find that they really lost 7 cents. <g>

Intel, in particular, has become something of an internet sector fund, which is just as well given the shabby state of its chip business. Cisco and MSFT do the same thing, but their core businesses are in better shape. Cisco has only survived by buying out leading edge smaller cos., so there is some method to their madness. Intel and MSFT just seem to be padding the eps statement. This wouldn't bother me if the losses, and there will be huge losses, are treated as part of eps the same way the gains are. They won't be, as these cos. know slick accounting and PR BS.