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Technology Stocks : Siebel Systems (SEBL) - strong buy? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Steve Hufnagle who wrote (2944)	7/18/1999 11:02:00 PM
From: Lhn5	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6974

Scalability Question. The following is reposted from Yahoo: <<Put your money where your mouth is..... Clarify is architected for access with OLTP (on-line transaction processing), large scale enterprise, with lots of concurrent users in mind (benefits of using commercial middleware products such as BEA's Tuxedo). - Siebel is architected for synchronization/remote use, coming from their SFA expertise. - Siebel WAN on-line performance and scalability is not proven. Siebel doesn't have benchmarks or large non SFA implementations to match Clarify's customers with 1000's front office/callcenter/support users - Clarify has benchmarks: NT for 5,000 cc users and HP/Oracle/FD for 30,000 concurrent users - Siebel large implementations are on SFA for disconnected users/synchronization - Siebel's has a homegrown/proprietary application server on NT that doesn't provide all the functionality (scalability, performance, high availability) that Clarify's Tuxedo-based N-Tier architecture can provide (in particular things such as fail over and load balancing) - Clarify uses same N-Tier architecture for Desktop as well as Web-enabled client. It is proven, scalable, robust middleware used in thousands of mission critical applications by worldwide customers. It is also the foundation for Clarify's object architecture. - You do not retrofit the architecture to scale and perform, unless you design it for it from the beginning - "Siebel can't scale passed 2K users no matter WHAT you throw at it" - (Big Computer Manufacturer starts with a "C")>> I am new to SEBL--sorry to mnake my first post so onerous. Anyway, can anyone address these issues? Esp[ecially inability to service more than 2000 users? It hardly seems possible based ontheir customer list posted below from their website. Thanks for input. Banking BankBoston Bank One Chase Manhattan Bank Citibank Dresdner Bank Fleet Bank NationsBank Consulting Andersen Consulting Cambridge Technology Partners Deloitte Consulting Siemens Business Services Consumer Goods CHEP The Dial Corp Hewlett Packard Kellogg Multibras The Quaker Oats Company Reynolds Metals Electronics/ Semiconductor Altera AMP LSI Logic Motorola SPS Financial/ Insurance Charles Schwab CIGNA Great West Life Nationwide Insurance NationsBanc Montgomery Prudential Hardware Compaq Computer CompUSA Hewlett Packard NEC Packard Bell-NEC Siemen's Computer Systems Unisys Corporation Manufacturing DaimlerChrysler Rockwell Southwire Medical BlueCross Blue Shield ManorCare Siemens Medical Systems Process Dow Chemical Company Dow Corning Halliburton ICI Software Autodesk BMC Software Mastering Computers Mentor Graphics Microsoft Novell PeopleSoft Telecom Ascend Cable & Wireless Communications Infostrada Lucent MCI Worldcom PageNet Siemens Communications Sonera Telenor Mobil Teligent Transportation APL Dade Worldspan ICL Standardizes on Siebel Systems' Web-based Front Office Applications to Heighten Sales and Increase Customer Loyalty Microsoft Adopts Siebel Systems' Web-based Front Office Applications Cable & Wireless Communications Improves Sales Force Effectiveness with Siebel Sales Enterprise Chase Manhattan Bank Standardizes on Siebel Deutsche Telekom Selects Siebel to Manage Customer Relationships Across the Enterprise Dresdner Bank Chooses Siebel Systems and Andersen Consulting to Deliver Relationship Management Solution -