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Pastimes : JFK, Jr. Missing-Is there really a family curse? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: cgraham who wrote (36)	7/19/1999 8:42:00 AM
From: cgraham	Respond to of 73

Well, it's officially no longer a search and rescue. You know, I think there may actually be a family curse. Wonder if the plane is intact, if they are in there? I hope so. Because it would be so awful for the families if they were not recovered. A friend of mine died at sea taking part in the pre trials of the Whitbread in Miami. His body was never found. And his wife and three children have never really had closure. It was last January.

To: cgraham who wrote (36)	7/19/1999 2:23:00 PM
From: BelowTheCrowd	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 73

CG, "Graveyard Spin" isn't really a term. A Graveyard Sprial is what happens when you get the plane into a bank, with the angle of descent and bank increasing over time. You end up going very fast with the plane nearly perpendicular. Get it going fast enough and it can be very difficult to recover, the stresses can literally rip the airplane apart. A spin happens when you slow down too much and stall. If the plane isn't well coordinated, the stall (usually pretty benign in a Piper) can turn into a spin: Fast nose-down descent while rotating. Can be very tough to recover a heavy aircraft like a Saratoga from this situation. IMO, spatial disorientation could lead to either one under the right set of circumstances. The former more likely in cruise, the latter in a descent when power was being pulled off and the plane slowed. Normally radar coverage in that area is lost at about 2000'. mg