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Technology Stocks : Discuss Year 2000 Issues -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Ken who wrote (6751)	7/19/1999 6:06:00 PM
From: C.K. Houston	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 9818

Ken, Thanks for link to this article. courierpress.com It struck a chord ... "If the computer chip resets itself in January, problems may not develop in the system until later,” he said. “In one of our tests, it took six weeks for problems to develop in a system after we reset the clock.” Dave Synowiec American Electric Plant Manager (largest transmission system in the country) courierpress.com Reminded me of something I investigated and followed in late '97. Don't know if it's the case or not, with what occurred at AEP, but thought it was worth bringing up since so many are still unaware of this problem: Time Dilation. ======================================================== "How many people have set their computer to the 1st of January in the year 2000 - and then carried on using it for a couple of weeks with a Y2k date? Have you? Jace Crouch did in August 1997 and was astonished when his computer proceeded forward in time. Over the two week period, the date advanced from January to December 2000. And after about ten days, the PC system would not recognize he had two serial ports... The Crouch-Echlin Effect, commonly known as Time Dilation, TD for short, is an unusual part of Y2k - the Millennium Bug - the Year 2000 computer problem ... elmbronze.co.uk People made fun of these guys who discovered this - including some industry "experts". Called the guys "wackos" - just like Cheeky Kid does on this thread. UNTIL ... "We at Compaq and Digital have confirmed that the Crouch Echlin Effect, also referred to as Time Dilation (TD), is real and is a potential threat to PCs, servers, and embedded systems that use unbuffered real time clocks. Although we have not seen any TD symptoms on any Compaq or Digital PCs, many of our Customers have a mixture of various brand PCs that should be checked. Also, the use of non-manufacturer parts for repairs or upgrades may introduce potential TD problems into any PC. Hundreds of requests for the TD Tools (as described at the following URL) have been received by Compaq/Digital, along with reports of similar Time/Date anomalies, during post Year 2000 testing." nethawk.com "We have made the decision to resell the TD Tools." deja.com "TD is a threat to embedded systems that have unbuffered RTCs, particularly embedded systems that go through a power on / power off cycle. Still under development, Mike Echlin's tdprobe detects the presence of unbuffered RTCs in some embedded systems, thereby indicating potential susceptibility to TD." Many STILL don't know about this particular aspect of the Y2K problem. Cheryl 165 Days until 2000 P.S. It was fascinating to "watch" the evolution of this discovery. The guys were on a message board, just like we post here on SI. Couch forgot to re-set his computer after setting it to 01-01-00, and when he ran into problems - others started checking out their systems and shared info. [I was checking every day to see what was going on.] When more problems popped up, a guy from Dallas Semiconductor and some other industry "expert" popped up and tried to discount what they were doing.

To: Ken who wrote (6751)	7/20/1999 8:22:00 AM
From: Bald Eagle	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 9818

<<How many days without electricity, heat, water until city-wide rioting and looting becomes rampant and unstoppable- remembering Mazlow's hiearchy of needs?????>> Well, I guess I'm glad I live in Louisiana. Hardly ever freezes, lots of rain and lots of food close by (I can eat alligator and nutria if I'm really hungry!). I guess that New York, Chicago and other big cities in the north will be the worst places to be if the Y2K bug really does what the doomsters predict.