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To: Charles R who wrote (66187)	7/20/1999 1:14:00 AM
From: grok	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1574267

RE: <Here is some interesting stuff that may help give some clues on what might happen later this year. platform99.com Chuck> Yes, I'll be there.

To: Charles R who wrote (66187)	7/20/1999 1:53:00 AM
From: fyo	Respond to of 1574267

Chuck - Re: Here is some interesting stuff that may help give some clues on what might happen later this year. platform99.com; The PC133 vs DRDRAM comparison is quite interesting. DRDRAM will need a 'wind tunnel'?! A complete case redesign?! Thermal latencies?! 70% price premium on memory alone?! 'Rambus power management philosophy is completely opposite of normal power management concepts. Rather than shutting down when you are not using it, Rambus shuts down precisely when you need it the most.' And what about the Capacity Issues?! The pdf claims that DRDRAM will be limited to 256MB in 1999 - or 128MB using 400MHz DRDRAM (1.6GB/s). Double those figures for 2000 and again for 2001. That makes only 1GB for 2001! If Intel doesn't have SOME KIND of PC133 BANDWIDTH (could be some DRDRAM - I'm just talking bandwidth), it CAN'T DO AGPx4!!! This is practically a DRDRAM obituary... I still feel that Intel could push it through regardless, though. --fyodor

To: Charles R who wrote (66187)	7/20/1999 10:43:00 AM
From: grok	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574267

RE: <Here is some interesting stuff that may help give some clues on what might happen later this year. platform99.com Chuck> I downloaded the first presentation and read through the first part of it. First of all it is written by Bert McComas who has been active in anti-Rambus for some time. Therefore the Rambus thread will discount all of it as FUD. I think that most of it is true. The most extreme part should be considered in the "unverifyable" category since some of this will depend on how the industry reacts and performs to various issues such as bringing on cheap rambus testers on time. I do believe that the Rambus story is ready to be punctured since Intel has been trying to rush it forward way too fast and also trying to ram it down everyone's throat instead of supporting both drdram and conventional dram and letting the market choose.