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To: Jeff R who wrote (66192)	7/20/1999 1:41:00 AM
From: Cirruslvr	Respond to of 1585485

Jeff - RE: "The Texas engineers ineptness and NIH are the major reasons AMD has a poor reputation in manufacturing." Are those engineers still around? Thanks for that detailed, objective AMD history lesson. I wonder if AMD's process engineers have learned anything from the past.

To: Jeff R who wrote (66192)	7/20/1999 1:57:00 AM
From: Elmer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1585485

Re: "AMD and Intel had a technology exchange agreement. AMD gave Intel the rights to a couple of chips, (.i.e Hard Disk Controller and QPDM graphics chip). Intel refused these chips and complained they weren't what they were asking for and were not compatible with Intel's process. Later it was found in court arbitration that Intel had purposely refused the devices so AMD would not have enough points to claim access to the 386. Subsequently. AMD went off and reversed engineered the 386 in Austin Texas. AMD made the AM386 static with lower power with a slightly higher frequency. " In reality, AMD was so incompetent they were incapable of producing anything of value in exchange for the products they had received from Intel. Intel, after transfering their designs to AMD and watching AMD make 100s of Millions selling Intel designs, and at the same time returning nothing of value, simply got tired of carrying a deadbeat partner. Plain and simple. The Judge presiding over the artbitration case clearly stated that AMD had no one but themselves to blame, due to their own incompetence, for failing to provide Intel with marketable products in exchange for all the goodies they had gotten from Intel with nothing in return. The bottom line is, nobody likes a beadbeat partner. Intel simply got sick of giving away their property to someone who was incapable of producing anything of value in return, as the technology exchange agreement required. To this day AMD has never produced a profitable processor of their own. The only thing they have ever made money on was stolen Intel designs. Deadbeats then. Deadbeats now. EP EP

To: Jeff R who wrote (66192)	7/20/1999 3:09:00 AM
From: Yougang Xiao	Respond to of 1585485

Jeff: Thanks for your nice summary on AMD. IS K7/Athlon considered an AMD home grown product? Dirk Meyer joined AMD directly from DEC, before the Nexgen purchase. TIA

To: Jeff R who wrote (66192)	7/20/1999 7:54:00 AM
From: Sam Ochi	Respond to of 1585485

Jeff R: Thanks for your post. Your post very much agree with what I remember of AMD and Jerry Sanders. Regards, Sam

To: Jeff R who wrote (66192)	7/20/1999 11:07:00 AM
From: Paul Engel	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1585485

Jeff - Re: 'AMD gave Intel the rights to a couple of chips, (.i.e Hard Disk Controller and QPDM graphics chip). Intel refused these chips and complained they weren't what they were asking for" The Quad Pixel chip (QPDM) was very, very late when Intel realized it was going to get NOTHING useable from AMD as a result of that 1982 agreement. The QPDM apparently NEVER did function properly, even years later, in the latter part of the '80s when AMD finally dropped it. I'm not certain but AMD may have gotten only ONE design win for that turkey. Paul