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To: E who wrote (46755)	7/24/1999 7:12:00 AM
From: Neocon	Respond to of 108807

As you say, I saw him, I heard him...I was just making a break with the Democrats when I voted for Reagan, so I probably had fewer preconceptions than most of those on this thread. The occasional confusion of anecdotes was trivial, what counted was the right agenda, surrounding himself with good people, and a sure- footed political instinct....

To: E who wrote (46755)	7/24/1999 11:57:00 AM
From: epicure	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

Sure he did- working 9-3 and dressing up for dinners must be great. As an ideological figurehead for the conservative party no one could have been better. Perhaps intelligent Presidents are bad- Jimmy Carter had to be one of the smartest we've had, but he couldn't delegate, and his deep ethical thinking got us into some real problems (imo). Perhaps an untroubled shallow public speaker is the best representative for an electorate that can't think more than a few years ahead, has a hard time looking further than their pocketbooks, and has little real compassion on a grand scale. Sure, people can send money to people in news stories- tragedies thrust into the gaping maw of the public, but as for a real consciousness of world pain, or would inequalities, world tragedies and despair, it isn't there. Our compassion is facile and limited by our desire for a QUICK solution. Sometimes there are long difficult solutions- and we are not the kind of electorate to tolerate that. So our politician's make stupid expedient decisions to appease us. And whether I laugh at dark humor or not, I have compassion for others- and I actually try to see a bigger perspective than the hidebound one presented to me by the mainstream American press, or the politicians who never represent me. So we get the government we deserve. The government that will tell us what we want to hear, and will not push us to the actions that may need to be taken to secure our future.

To: E who wrote (46755)	7/24/1999 12:24:00 PM
From: Yogizuna	Respond to of 108807

No President is TRULY in charge, no matter if it was Reagan or our current actor, Mr. Clinton. Yogi

To: E who wrote (46755)	7/24/1999 1:15:00 PM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

A good friend of mine was a high exec in the CIA during the Reagan years and met with Reagan personally and frequently. He is a very bright man and competent man (now owns a company which teaches investigatory, read legal spying, technicques to companies all over the world, spends about half his time in the air, to Europe. Asia, all over the U.S.). I know him well from serving on serveral boards with him. He says that the real Reagan was very astute, very much on top of things, but fostered an aura of semi-bumbling avuncularity partly for its popularity and partly as a shield against aggressive reporters. A sort of presidential Columbo.