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To: chalu2 who wrote (1884)	7/26/1999 5:44:00 AM
From: truedog	Respond to of 769670

to: chalu2 from: truedog I really don't care what you have "trouble" with but I didn't like what the Japanese of that time were doing any more than you do now. But, if someone broke a contract with you on a personal basis, I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that you would be provoked. You sound like the same kind of people that broke all the treaties with the Native Americans because they wanted to steal their land. One thing your right about. What FDR did by that executive order was insane and makes no sense but, according to people that were there in the headquarters of the Navy, such an order did come directly from the White House. One of those people was my uncle who was a Naval officer at the time. Before you attempt to twist my words again, regardless of the provocation, what the Japanese did was a brutal response and can not be excused.

To: chalu2 who wrote (1884)	7/26/1999 8:07:00 AM
From: Neocon	Respond to of 769670

From what I understand, Tojo and Yamamoto thought that war with the United States was inevitable anyway, and were inclined to deliver a sharp blow to our main Pacific base, with the expectation that we would not have the will to fully recover and prosecute the war. Therefore, the oil embargo was very likely a pretext. On the other hand, it is clear that we were increasingly violating strict neutrality, in both potential theaters, and there was reason for the isolationists to complain, especially over Lend- Lease. I approve of FDR trying to move us towards entering the war, and therefore approve of all of these actions, but it cannot be denied that that is what he was doing. As far as the charge that he deliberately ignored warnings about the attack, in order to get the States into the war, that has been floated even by reputable historians, but I believe it has been pretty well discredited by this time. The signal traffic does not bear out the idea that he really knew in time to do anything about it, and there was a Japanese delegation in Washington negotiating over the embargo even as the attack played out...