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To: Ramsey Su who wrote (281)7/27/1999 4:04:00 PM
From: Sawtooth  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 13582
 
<<hmmm, a notebook type device, but would that be too large?.......
I think there must be a usable device to make 3G a blockbuster. How long has the Nokia surfing (forgot model number) device been out? I don't think it is that popular nor do I think pdQ would be a big seller>>

Ramsey: the form factor I envision is along the lines of a Nokia Communicator 9000 with a (wireless?) headset for phone and voice recognition apps. Looks like:

shopnokia.com

IMO, hasn't been a knock out seller because apps are limited to basic Palm-type functionality with a phone.



To: Ramsey Su who wrote (281)7/27/1999 4:18:00 PM
From: bananawind  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 13582
 
Ramsey, *broadband devices*

...a notebook type device, but would that be too large?...
...nor do I think pdQ would be a big seller...


How popular data becomes as well as the nature of the devices will largely be determined by the carriers in defining the services offered and pricing it attractively.

As far as I'm concerned the killer application is plain old internet access. No, I don't want to surf while driving (although I might if I was often a passenger). But I do want to access the net while I'm standing online at the grocery store, waiting at the quicklube, eating lunch at the local pizza joint, killing time between meetings in a hotel room, getting ready for a race on my sailboat [up to date barometric pressure maps are a real edge in wind prediction], and a host of other times and places IF I can do it without wires or long download times, at reasonable monthly cost, on a device large enough for me to comfortably see what I'm looking at, with input capabilities (voice or manual) that can be easily used, and in a package no more inconvenient to carry around than maybe a pad of paper or a thick magazine.

I am confident the carriers have done their focus group homework. As soon as the speeds are available they will have service offerings and the device makers will be all over it. Remember, Q has been offering that MSM module that can be designed into a laptop or other thingie [to use a SurferMike hi-tech MITism] since last January, I believe.

PDQ is a road warrior's tool, plain and simple, just like the current Palm series. I don't think it will have mass market appeal, but a segment the size of Palm's (3 million devices?) is nothing to scoff at for a company that recently sold its 12 millionth phone. Indeed, the 3G device (and service offering) market is likely to be highly segmented, with products and services matching the specific needs or desires of various consumer and business customers. I want my 'etch-a-sketch' POI (plain old internet) device. You will obviously want something to teach you the fine points of golf and baseball<ggg>.

Beyond these 'human as end-user' devices, the more important 3G market may eventually be the 'machine as end-user' applications eg.. the vending machine that tells the route supplier's inventory server that its time to fill up slot 6 on machine 12345 with twinkies. Machines talking to machines talking to other machines... kind of 2001ish, isn't it?

None of this is going to happen overnight, but it might evolve more rapidly if the speeds were available right now. Just getting above the 56K speeds available on plain copper wire should be enough to jumpstart POI services and device availability.

Sorry so longwinded. Must be coming down with a touch of Mqurice.

Best regards,
Jim



To: Ramsey Su who wrote (281)7/27/1999 5:23:00 PM
From: DaveMG  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 13582
 
What's wrong with a slim notebook like the Sony Vaio, voice recognition, 3G data rates with onboard wireless modem by Q? Does it have to be fancier than that?



To: Ramsey Su who wrote (281)7/27/1999 6:36:00 PM
From: Whistler30  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 13582
 
Ramsey;

I agree - a notebook type of device won't be it. To my mind size will be ultimately important as will simplicity ie. you'll have to be able to wear it. I wonder if the device might look something like this (eventually adding 3G capability to its present functionality)?

blackberry.net

Whistler



To: Ramsey Su who wrote (281)7/30/1999 10:19:00 PM
From: Eric L  Respond to of 13582
 
Ramsey,

<< a notebook type device, but would that be too large? >>

Wireless data display technology

kopin.com

kopin.com

Not exactly my bag (tired old eyes) but interesting.

- Eric -