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To: Blue Snowshoe who wrote (2895)	7/28/1999 11:50:00 AM
From: faqsnlojiks	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 7442

BLUE, not to get off of the sperm subject here, but I just want you to know that I finally broke-down and ordered a case of Bonesuckin BBQ sauce! I can't wait for it to arrive. I'm going to incorporate it into my secret recipe for wild western dove...which is great with most any BBQ sauce, and should be absolutely outstanding with the bonesuckin sauce. Heck, maybe they'll even publish my recipe! 909's, -Joe

To: Blue Snowshoe who wrote (2895)	7/28/1999 1:37:00 PM
From: Joana Tides	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 7442

ROFLMFAO, you guys are something! Now we got the social complexities arising before the lil tadpoles are born !! Now THAT'S Something to wrap yer mind around on a boring drive on the Interstate when everyone's asleep and there's nothing on the radio, Alrite! I hope this reads as I really feel about partners people choose for themselves - I'm not against anyone doing what they feel like doing as long as it doesn't victimize anyone else. That said, going beyond PC and now trying to THINK.... Haven't gay folks been pretty much outside of the reproductive pool up til now, except if married/closeted as in former times? It's natural that some folks, gay or not, would like being around kids more than others would and so would be wanting more to have a family. There are even people who don't like sex at all, no matter with who; and only put up with it to have a marriage and a family and because they love their partner.... That One's An Old Story. Scientific Techriders see my hypothesis coming already I'm sure... I doubt sexual preference necessarily ties in so completely to an individual's desire to raise children as logic says it should. I don't think people's hearts are as simple as that! If I'm right, then some adults want kids more than others do. If there's a physical problem or emotional abhorrence to any aspect of having the child "the old fashioned way", then the couple must have the willingness to go through a whole heap of trouble to make it happen somehow else to accommodate that. Technology To The Rescue! Whether it's artificial insemination or adoption or surrogate parenting and/or assisted by fertility drugs and timecharts, any of these ways to surmount difficuly are a bigger deal and costs much more money than if the baby simply comes along easily to a married couple within a few months after they decide to "try". If someone wants a baby and the means to do so are there, they'll try. So now Technology sez Maybe You Can Have It All, Give It A Try. (theme song "I Did It My Way") I think it's real good that there's not the self-hate now like gays felt in less accepting and more conformist times that we saw growing up. Now the self-acceptance is to the point of not being afraid of the higher statistical risk (given the theory of inborn determination) of giving birth to someone who'll experience the same same-sex tendency along with the problems of nonconformity that accompany it. Because isn't that the core of parenting - the parent hoping the child has a better life in every way, hoping the surpasses the parent? All kidding aside, dontcha think it's Beautiful that however someone's born or becomes, whichever, that they don't have to hate themselves for Who They Are or be scared to have a baby who might be the same way ?! Most of the gay folks now were born to straight parents... most of their parents deal with it like champs, hard as it must be. So now, here's the Brave New World by Huxley ... How many generations would it take to see if indeed the genes are what's in charge of the tendency as innate, or if it's something else. My guess is it's either one or the other depending on the situation; they'll nail it down to is some percentile range of probability, probly. We'll never know, we won't be around for that long.