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To: Father Terrence who wrote (1101)	7/28/1999 4:47:00 PM
From: Andrew Martin	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1615

Look, astrology was just one of several tools Nostradamus used to interpret his visions. Besides astrology he was familiar with Christian, Jewish and Arabic religious writings and, yes, their attendant prophecies. He was similarly very religious, a devout Catholic (of Jewish heritage), an accomplished physician and a scholar all before 'Centuries' was written. To date the skeptics have two strikes against them: 1) Nostradamus described how there would be an eclipse over France (heralding the arrival the 'King of Terror') prior to the KOT and; 2) that a "bearded star" would be visible (along with the KOT) during the eclipse. On Aug. 11 there is a full eclipse over central France. Comet Lee will be visible during the eclipse. Me, I'm already betting on his predictions from other quatrains that the "monster will be seen" during this eclipse and that it will cause great 'debate' -or even discord. Terrence, do us all a favor and take a vacation to Cape Cod for a few weeks at the end of August. If and when the August full moon turns red you can throw a cocktail party on the beach and tell your cynical guests how much BS astrology is. Somehow, I don't think you'll take the chance.

To: Father Terrence who wrote (1101)	7/28/1999 5:05:00 PM
From: jbe	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1615

Terrence, the problem is that "twin studies" are designed to determine the relative influence on character and behavior of heredity (genetic endowment) and environment. If you find (as the Minnesota Study did -- not that it does not have its critics) that twins are more alike than they are different, this only proves that heredity is more important; if you find the reverse, then environment is more important. Such studies can prove nothing about astrology. If you really seriously wanted to do a study of "astrological influence," you would use individuals who were born at exactly the same time, same place, etc., but who are unrelated to one another. Otherwise, any similarities you would find would be attributed to their sharing similar genes, not a similar astrological chart. Furthermore, astrology is just not taken seriously in the scientific community. And I find it difficult to imagine that any university, research institute, or foundation would pour money into a long-term research project that would examine the possible influence of "the stars" on character & behavior.