To: Mika Kukkanen who wrote (361 ) 7/29/1999 11:07:00 AM From: DaveMG Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 13582
Hi Mika, Gregg said:Do you understand that TDMA-based GSM (and IS-136) face an extraordinarily cumbersome and expense migration path to high speed data? Do you know that GPRS will require essentially a complete network overbuild in order to achieve 114kps? Do you understand that EDGE will subsequently require new handsets, on top of this new infrastructure, to push data rates only to 384kps+. Do you understand that Phase I of cdma2000 will yield 144kps data rates, double the voice capacity of existing IS-95 networks, and BE BACKWARD COMPATIBLE with existing handsets in the field? Do you understand the deployment advantages, and flexibility, of cdma2000's 1.25mhz design? Do you understand that operators with 5mhz of spectrum can mix and match voice channels and high speed data? Do you understand that Phase I can be deployed as a field upgrade without replacing existing infrastructure? Do you understand the tremendous economic advantage that this confers to IS-based, CDMA-centric, operators? The capital investment and performance deltas between TDMA and CDMA are shifting even more dramatically in the latter's favor. Meanwhile, Phase II of cdma2000 pretty much puts the nail in tdma's coffin longer-term. And you responded: No, GPRS will not require a complete network overbuild. It is commonly misconceived that it will and would like to know where you got this misinformation. The costs of rolling out EDGE on top could be comparable to overlaying cdmaOne, which would also require new handsets too and at the cdmaOne stage has less data capacity. Problems would also come (in mature markets) by having several technologies within the same spectrum - most used/deployed spectrum in the world is at 900Mhz (GSM, NMT, TACS). For global strategies, it is hard to magine the scenario you portray and the US is not a big enough market to rely on (see Lucent and Motorola's demise in the 2G market). Although I agree with the assumptions of the advantages of cdma2000, it is more applicable in the US environment than elsewhere (i.e., the lack of new spectrum -FCC wants 2G and 3G in the same spectrum). This is where rumours are coming about some operators (only US) that are looking at cdma overlays, although as I stated they are rumours at the moment. Could you perhaps explain why Gregg thinkks GPRS needs a network overbuild and you think it doesn't? And, you seem to be suggesting that in the "mature" markets other than the US, GSM and descendants GPRS and EDGE will occupy the "old" spectrum and sit side by side with 3G CDMA in the new. What markets would you consider to be mature outside of Europe? And if in fact the global costs of GPRS and EDGE upgrades are similar to CDMAone overlays, why go with GPRS/EDGE if CDMAone or subsequent variants gives you greater 3G flexibility? Thanks...Dave