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To: ftth who wrote (4856)	7/29/1999 11:53:00 AM
From: Frank A. Coluccio	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 12823

Dave, I find this quite alarming, but I shouldn't. Should I. "Without fully cutting off access to unaffiliated sites, the technology allows a cable company to make such destinations appear much more slowly on customers' computers than preferred sites, Cisco claimed in brochures distributed at a recent appear much more slowly on customers' computers than preferred sites, Cisco claimed in brochures distributed at a recent..." You might recall my posting a hypothetical case upstream (about a month and a half ago, somewhere here in LM), stating how I thought it was conceivable to do context based screening and value-add (selective QoS) at the ad banner level, by the providers of DSL and other forms of dialup. In so doing, advertisers could cut deals with the facilities based last mile providers, as opposed to the ISPs, themselves. What the above quote from your message (italics) implies is something similar, but with the inverse effect. Do you suppose that this is url specific, or is it done by looking at the upper Layer headers a al Layer 4/5 keyed? Any idea?

To: ftth who wrote (4856)	7/30/1999 10:07:00 AM
From: Frank A. Coluccio	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 12823

Here's another view from the NANOG list, concerning the cisco product features you referenced in your message: ---------- re: News.com has posted a Reuters story titled "Cisco under fire from "open access" groups <http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,39939,00.html?st.ne.fd.tohhed.ni> Here's one sample statement: Referring to product literature passed out at a recent industry trade show by Cisco, one representative said, "This is the owner's manual that they're providing to the cable industry to monopolize the Internet," according to Jeff Chester, executive director of the Center for Media Education. The claims are that QoS gives companies too much control. I think it's time someone with a clue help them right a story. Perhaps this has gotten out of hand? ----------------- I am still searching for my other post which you questioned, concerning the context-based tagging of messages by advertisers, to which, the facilities based NSP could assign QoS and other special handling on the fly. In your reply, I sensed that you interpreted this as some form of ad insertion capability. Not quite. What I was suggesting, instead, was that last mile service providers could cut deals with advertisers directly, bypassing [or in addition to] the ISP middleman. In such an arrangement, the Facilities Based LM provider could read the packets being sent to the end user, and if the advertiser's tag was detected, then additional bandwidth and other resources could be made available for premium viewing capability by the user. Such an on-the-fly enhancement capability as this is actually feasible, in my opinion, technologically speaking, although it raises a many other issues, at the same time. I could even see this being used by advertisers as an enticement to click on their banners. If the customer did so, the advertiser would pay for extra bandwidth (speed) on behalf of the customer for some period of time, say an hour or a day, if the customer agreed to click on their banner. If not speed or QOS (since this, may seem far fetched at this time), then some other newtwork attribute, in the future.

To: ftth who wrote (4856)	11/2/1999 7:28:00 AM
From: MikeM54321	Respond to of 12823

Re: Time Warner and Last Mile Customers Thread, Just a bit of info from their Q3 CC. I linked this to Dave's post regarding their relationship with High Speed Access Corp(sym:HSAC). Looks like there is a direct link between the two companies per Dave's posted article. MikeM(From Florida) ____________________________ Time Warner details quarterly numbers Oct 14--Cable system operator and diversified entertainment company Time Warner has reported revenues of $6.723 billion for the third quarter, up from revenues of $6.593 billion during the same period last year. At the end of the third quarter, Time Warner's Road Runner high-speed cable modem service had about 420,000 subscribers, up by about 100,000 subscribers from the previous quarter. Road Runner launched in eight new markets during the third quarter.