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To: paul who wrote (18339)	7/29/1999 10:00:00 PM
From: QwikSand	Respond to of 64865

But don't forget that the OSF formed because AT&T & Sun got together and basically told the world that they were in control of Unix; they were going to rewrite it in C++ or some hogwash like that. Since at that time AT&T, the ultra-arrogant owner of Unix, let you talk to their lawyers for a couple of days before they even allowed you to use their restrooms, the rest of the industry saw themselves getting frozen out and formed the OSF in frightened reaction. Unfortunately, however, IBM and DEC got into a "mine is bigger than yours" game and the whole thing turned into a clown show. That late-80's period was Unix' era of shame...every moronic mistake that possibly could have been made by executive empty suits, was made. It was the final destruction of Unix's chance to become what Windows is today, and all because of executive egos at AT&T, IBM, OSF, DEC and (sorry to say) SUNW. It is interesting to note that literally every one of the executive players who participated in that fiasco period is gone in one way or another, faded into the obscurity they so very richly deserve, except McNealy, the last man standing. It says something about his skills as a fighter. Regards, --QwikSand

To: paul who wrote (18339)	7/30/1999 1:48:00 PM
From: Martin Milani	Respond to of 64865

WRONG......! HPUX in the internet space is not going anywhere..! IBM and sun are raping HP's install base and have been over 2 years now. As for OSF, noone tried to pigeonhole Sun into anything. They just did not wanna play..till 2 years ago they still were trying to push openlook vs motif as the window manager. OSF was trying to bring Enterprise class functionality to UNIX. Sun choose to partner with AT&T in UNIX international just to try to derail any standards movement in the UNIX market. Probably not a bad move at the time when you look back now. Aix is not a distant 3rd in terms of the UNIX market share. It holds a 16% vs 13.1% for sun according to IDC. Infact SCO is number 1 with about 40.1%. 1999 numbers aren't out yet. If you read between the lines it looks like scott is afraid of IBM and Linux.