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To: Scumbria who wrote (66985)7/30/1999 5:33:00 PM
From: grok  Respond to of 1575273
 
RE: <Joey, Suppose that Intel built an SSE version of SPEC which gave them a 50% boost. AMD will be able to do the same thing with 3DNow! and jump back into a huge lead. This kind of trickery will not work for Intel. Scumbria>

But where will AMD get the compiler? Currently they use Intel's optimized compiler for Spec.



To: Scumbria who wrote (66985)7/30/1999 5:42:00 PM
From: Joey Smith  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1575273
 
re:Suppose that Intel built an SSE version of SPEC which gave them a 50% boost. AMD
will be able to do the same thing with 3DNow! and jump back into a huge lead. This
kind of trickery will not work for Intel.

Problem for AMD is that SSE is widely accepted and quickly becoming the industry standard for software developers (and i'm not just talking about games). Athlon better provide support for SSE pronto!
Will hurt them as they try to target the commercial sector.

joey



To: Scumbria who wrote (66985)7/30/1999 11:11:00 PM
From: Elmer  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1575273
 
Re: "Suppose that Intel built an SSE version of SPEC which gave them a 50% boost. AMD will be able to do the same thing with 3DNow! and jump back into a huge lead. This kind of trickery will not work for Intel."

That point has been tossed around before. I am no expert in this area but I thought the conclusion was that the 3DNOW instructions in the K7 would not offer better performance then the already optimized K7 FPU. As a matter of fact, Intel's use of the SIMD registers was widely speculated on for a possible means for Intel to match the K7 FPU performance. Why the surprise now? This is not a smoke and mirrors benchmark thing if the optimizing compilers support it.

EP