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To: KeepItSimple who wrote (70906)7/30/1999 5:25:00 PM
From: Impristine-2  Respond to of 164684
 
IPO and Retire!
You are on Fire!
Go Mister!



To: KeepItSimple who wrote (70906)7/30/1999 5:45:00 PM
From: Paul Viapiano  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 164684
 
KIS...you bitter old coot. So that's the bug you have up your butt against the internet stock world. ;)



To: KeepItSimple who wrote (70906)7/30/1999 5:58:00 PM
From: Rob S.  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 164684
 
Excellent! Some real world common sense for a change. The Internut stock phenomena has even the most jaded beneficiaries of prior waves of business change shaking their heads in wonder. Common board room banter; "It sure wasn't this easy to make billions in stock options when I started YouNameIt High-Tech Incorporated." Forget almost everything they teach in B school and just figure out how to create the most cash driven business business and awareness for your stock. Then strike it rich before your business hardly clears the starting gate.




To: KeepItSimple who wrote (70906)7/30/1999 6:51:00 PM
From: Steve Lee  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 164684
 
>> The thing that sickens me the most is what the internut stock mania has done to business practices, efficiency, and hard work. <<

Not only is the business not viable from a profitability point of view, they are using fake currency to pay their employees. That fake currency is options. If the stock price falls, the employees may not get the rewards they were anticipating, if the stock price rises as the employees would hope (or were led to believe), or if it falls and the options are repriced, the shareholders suffer from dilution when the options are exercised.

So basically, with AMZN's suppliers receiving options, and AMZN's employees receiving options, the true operating costs are greater than reflected in the accounts. The accounting rules are being reviewed because of this as reported in this story - which naturally cites AMZN as the example:

cbs.marketwatch.com

The article sums up nicely with this paragraph:

On the other hand, if the companies "really accounted for what it was costing them, it's a lot more than people think. After customers get the benefits from lower prices, and insiders benefit from the options, what's left for the public shareholders."



To: KeepItSimple who wrote (70906)7/30/1999 11:34:00 PM
From: Annette  Respond to of 164684
 
Heck ...then you would *LOVE* NAVR...the have been trying to get their internet spinoff off their books for months...
and we are still waiting for NETR....



To: KeepItSimple who wrote (70906)7/31/1999 2:48:00 AM
From: John Chen  Respond to of 164684
 
KIS,sorry to hear that you were born at the wrong time.
Things are easier when you go postal (Excuse me, I meant, virtual).