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To: Charles R who wrote (67226)	8/1/1999 1:31:00 PM
From: grok	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573888

RE: <It could be argued that Timna could be squeezed between Playstation II and basic PC (with Celeron or Coppermine-128 or Cyrix or National or AMD low-end offerings) and will not EVER become a volume product. Timna may be too old a core to provide some of the gaming performance that would be necessary for this class of devices.> I expect that Timna will be succesful at 0.13u technology in about 1.5-2 years. But whether Timna makes it or not I still expect the typical PC to come down to 3D integrated either into the North Bridge or NB+3D integrated into the CPU. In either case drdram is a good solution since the 3D will need lots of bandwidth and the low pin count allows several rambus channels.

To: Charles R who wrote (67226)	8/1/1999 1:42:00 PM
From: grok	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573888

RE: <Even on the much touted graphics advantages, I can see graphics/chipset guys integrating memory at 1-T SRAMs or as outside DRAM modules or straight DRAM integration like some people have done to avoid Rambus premiums. Why put expensive memory for the entire PC if one can integrate a much cheaper version with the graphics controller?> Embedded 6T sram, embedded dram, and dedicated outside dram are all important for 3D and all are used now. (Not too sure about 1T sram. Did you mean to say 2T?) But the problem is that texture memory is huge. Way too huge for embedded dram and even too huge for non-embedded, dedicated dram in the long run. So sharing the PC main memory for textures seems the only solution ultimately. Of course there may be work station solutions with a different architecture but I'm talking about mainstream PCs. I think that this 3D arch is a big reason that intel went to big for rambus.