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To: Jim S who wrote (8980)	8/2/1999 4:58:00 PM
From: Constant Reader	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 9980

Nothing Mary Cluney writes strikes me as being racist. Nothing she wrote implies he is not guilty simply because he is Chinese. She does make the obvious point that there is generally little love for mainland Chinese among native Taiwanese of Mr. Lee's generation. Native Taiwanese make up about 80% of the population of Taiwan, Post-1949 mainland refugees make up 15% and the balance are indigenous people. The political beliefs of most native Taiwanese of that generation were greatly influenced by the heavy-handed tactics of the KMT occupying forces in the late 1940's. (Ask anyone of that generation what 2-28 means - for almost 40 years, it was forbidden to speak of that in public, but any man, woman, or child can give you the answer). Although nothing is impossible, it is unlikely for a Taiwanese to spy on behalf of China. If Mr. Lee is guilty of spying, the government should bring the charges to a court of law, not use "off the record" conversations with journalists to make unsubstantiated allegations. These "rumors" have been around for months and the situation has exacerbated the continuing morale problems at these important laboratories. To assume that all ethnic Han Chinese are alike, no matter which side of the Taiwan Straits they hail from, is racist. It seems to me that you are spoiling for a fight after enjoying run-ins with others elsewhere on SI. Regards

To: Jim S who wrote (8980)	8/2/1999 5:44:00 PM
From: shadowman	Respond to of 9980

>Nope. Unless, that is, that your intent is to show that facts and logic have nothing to do with formation of your opinions.< You talk about facts and logic and you base your tirade on your own very subjective "reasoning" and interpretation of what you perceive someone else's statements to mean? Example: M said >As for Dr. Lee, if the man is guilty of treason, I believe he should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. If he is not guilty, I believe we should leave him alone.< You reply >Would you please take a moment to think about that? If he's guilty, then he'll be punished -- but, under our system of law, he has to be tried to be found guilty. So, how can he be left alone if he is suspected of a crime< Mary is not allowed to say that "if" the man is not guilty, he should be left alone? One is not allowed to hold the opinion that innocent people should not be falsely accused and subjected to all the economic damage and humiliation that that would entail? You endorse the concept of accusing innocent people and then subjecting them to all the indignities of a criminal investigation.....even if they are not guilty? Your logic escapes me. To cut to the chase,your comments, particularly about "racism", are inflammatory and I think you may very possibly be a jerk. No absolute facts, just a "logical" opinion.