SI
SI
discoversearch

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor.  We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community.  If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.
Strategies & Market Trends : How To Write Covered Calls - An Ongoing Real Case Study! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Greg Higgins who wrote (11332)8/3/1999 12:48:00 PM
From: Night Writer  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 14162
 
Greg,
I didn't mean to be condescending. I came to this thread looking for help and to make a contribution. I apologize for any comment appearing to be condescending.

I understand selling the puts at $45 if you want to buy the stock. I don't understand how the buyer hedges by selling the lower puts.

The act of buying the 45 strike puts is a hedge on the stock.
Selling the 40 strike puts now puts the 45 strike buyer at risk.

I don't understand why the 45 strike buyer would do this but I'm willing to learn.

NW



To: Greg Higgins who wrote (11332)8/3/1999 6:43:00 PM
From: OX  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 14162
 
Pardon the intrusion, this is really fascinating following everyone deciphering this possible CPQ spread play...

> the MM who bought the 45's sold the 40s to lay off part of his risk

It may be a little late in the day for me, but I wondering, if a specialist did do this to offset her position... who does she sell the 40's to? another specialist? In a case like this, if it wasn't a spread play, I would think the specialist would cover with shares. But I have no idea what I'm talking about, so I would love for someone to correct what I'm trying to say.

also relevant to the CC thread, perhaps...

beta.siliconinvestor.com

beta.siliconinvestor.com



To: Greg Higgins who wrote (11332)9/24/1999 11:15:00 AM
From: Greg Higgins  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 14162
 
I wrote: If you are confident CPQ would turn up by Jan, there are 3 ways to play it: 1) Buy the stock, 2) Buy the Calls 3) Sell deep in the money puts. .... I think a credible case can be made in this instance for solely selling the DITM puts for someone who is convinced they want to buy the stock.

Well, I wasn't convinced that CPQ would turn up by January, but just for the heck of it, I sold one Jan 45 Put for 21 1/2 netting about 21 1/8 after commissions. I got assigned this AM. True to form, I have placed GTC orders to sell 1 Jan 22.5 Put @ 2 3/8 and one Jan 22.5 Call at 3 1/2.

Assuming I get filled at these prices, come January one of three things will happen:

1) after expiration, I'll be long 200 shares with a nut of roughly 20 9/16,

2) after expiration, I'll be flat with a $373 profit on a $24 stock (the 100MA is just about $24) after 5 months, or

3) just before expiration, it'll be so close to 22 1/2 that I'll buy back the put and call and sell them both again 3 months or so out.